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I had intense fear and panic because we were obviously crashing. Out of my heart came the
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thought, oh god help, I'm going to die.
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From the time that they pronounced me dead was a good 45 minutes.
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It's determined that I was not breathing for 20 minutes.
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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped. And I could
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see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realise that was actually my physical body
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because I was somewhere else.
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By which you went to the past far, in the afternoon, by half past seven I was dead, clinically
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dead, four minutes.
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And they were crying because I was dead and I was trying to tell them no, I'm not dead,
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I'm just fine, I'm okay.
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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.
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I started to feel like I was surrounded by all this warm, loving, beautiful, soothing,
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loving energy.
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I'm back with God again. I just felt this all in my two breath of these, like, wow,
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I'm back.
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I'm back home again.
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Incredibly safe and felt at home. I'd come back home. It was a very strong feeling that
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I've come back home.
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The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't
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anything else to be felt.
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And light is literally emitting from him. And I could feel that that tremendous amount
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of love was coming through him as well.
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They were brighter than everybody else. And I just knew who they were.
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Welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody. We have with us today. This is going to be fun
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today.
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Sal Adatsi, I hope I pronounced that correctly. Did I, Sal?
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Yes, it is. Hi, Eric. Thank you for inviting me. And yes, you did.
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You're welcome. And Sal is from Portugal, now living in Florida. And I think you have about
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the funnest job in the world. Tell everybody what you do.
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I work as a, I don't call it work because, well, because it called me and it's a pleasure.
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I am a professional sailor and a yacht captain. That's my job. Take boats, sailboats across
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wherever they need to be sailed to. And in between breaks, I run yachts for other people,
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for wealthy people.
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Not a bad gig. I imagine you get to eat the same food and some of those kind of things
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along the way too and see a lot of beautiful places.
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Yes, I do. I do. I do go to incredible places and the food is remarkable. And sometimes it's
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not. So there's always that balance of life. There's incredible stuff, but there's also
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moments of shocking realities. But that's a beauty. That's what we're here for.
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Yeah. It's adventure. Do you do any racing, by the way? I've been an America's Cup fan
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for years and years and years.
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I do. I do some racing from 50 footers to the largest yacht we raced was 200 and something
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like that. 200 feet, yeah. It was actually a classic skano wooden rig, classic style
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and with the Dracer art and it's incredible.
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Well, I'd love to talk sailing with you all day, but that's for somebody else's podcast.
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We have people here that want to hear about near-death experiences. Yours is cool and scary
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and has some interesting things to it. Remind me, you had a heart attack when you were 27
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years old?
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Correct.
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Tell us about that. Were you healthy? Was this just out of the blue? What happened?
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I was healthy. Well, I wasn't apparently, but that's...
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Well, you look healthy right now. So how were you back then?
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I am, man. So I had long story short, I had a background. I think since I was 14, I started
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with drug usage and then until I was 23, 24, yeah, 24, when it was the end of it was a
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disaster obviously. It's all drug dependency and that was nine to 10 years there. I don't
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see it as a problem or as a disaster anymore, but it was what it was. But then I did get
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into rehab and I was clean and sober by 21, I was 24. So when I had the heart attack
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at 27, it was totally unexpected because I was clean and sober, I was healthy, I was
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doing... I was healthy physically, I was doing all the right steps. You know, you have the
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12 step program and we do service to a community and do a lot of healthy lifestyle. But three
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weeks prior to my heart attack, I got into a deep depression and it was at some point
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it reached such a depth of depression that I desired to die. I wished to die really with
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everything that I had. I threw the towel and I said, I'd rather die than be here like this.
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And three weeks later, I found myself having a heart attack.
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Where were you when it happened? Were you on a boat? Where were you?
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I didn't know how I was at home in the countryside back in Portugal and at the time I had a
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dirt bike. I used to get together with my cousins and my friends and on the weekends
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that we play around with dirt bikes, you know, just boys being boys, just burning some gas
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and using motorcycles, playing with engines. And I just felt bad. I felt weird and I told
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them, I'm going to go. And I left them. I went to put the motorcycle in the garage and
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by the time I got to the garage, put the motorcycle in, I just fell straight on the floor. I was
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the most powerless situation I've ever had of having no control over the body and literally
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falling like a tree just fell. And I was by myself.
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So then what happened? Did people find you and then call an ambulance? Take us through
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kind of the physical stuff and then let's talk about what happened to you spiritually.
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So on the physical, because the heart stopped pumping blood, obviously the whole body shuts
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down. There's no, there's no fuel. So the body stops. That's why I fell. But the first
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one, when before I fell down was the excruciating pain that it's not to a heart attack. So my
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chest just goes like being ripped with two big knives. It's just weirdest pain I've ever
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had. Very, very strong pain. But this is what I'm standing at. But by the time I hit the
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floor and I fell with my face, I fell with my nose and my face on the floor, I didn't
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feel it already. So this was, it's such a switch off physically that I hit my nose and
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didn't hurt me and I was on the floor and I couldn't breathe. I was really trying to
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get some air and I couldn't, but I still had some something in me and I was getting some
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gasps. So I managed to get up again and I'm thinking, whoa, this, I got dizzy or I fainted
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or something, but I couldn't still breathe in the pain or see which excruciating. So
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I fall again and I'm still trying to get little bits of air and getting up and falling. And
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to the point that I fall on my back and I have no more air, the pain is excruciating.
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And that's when I realized I had something serious. I realized I was not just fainting
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or not just having some indigestion. That's when I couldn't move.
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Yeah. Who found you?
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No one.
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No one. So how did you get help?
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That's where the fun begins.
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Okay. Take us through it.
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Because this was the entrance of the garage and I'm on the floor and I couldn't get more
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air in and it's just like I start fainting. I start realizing that that's when I'm starting
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realizing I have something serious. And at this moment, actually my cousins, my friends,
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they passed through like 50 yards away with their motorcycles going home. They passed
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through the garage, but they didn't see me on the floor and I was there and I wanted
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to raise a hand, raise a finger, shout, move my head. Something. I was giving the conscious
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commands to the body. I looked, goes for help, do something. But my body was always
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replying it all. The body was having none of it. It's loving. You could think whatever
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you want, but not moving. The body was steady. I couldn't even move my eyes. I was, and that's
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when I realized, okay, this must be serious and that must be dying because there's no
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other explanation. I must be dying.
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Yeah, this is where the spiritual part starts. Okay, go ahead and tell us about that. The
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pain being so intense, the body not responding. And my consciousness, my saying this voice,
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the voice that you have in your head, your own voice still being clear and active as
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it is now. You start understanding that you start self, it's a self-dependence. So I was
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just, I started separating from the physical body. I was like, wait a minute, I'm conscious.
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I'm aware just the body that it's not good. And first before this, I remember crying.
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When they left, they passed me. They didn't see me and I thought, okay, I'm dying. I'm
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done. They were the only option of somebody to see me. Nobody else is going to come here.
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I'm done. And I realized I was dying, but I thought I was dying. And I remember just what
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I feel like now. It was the last movement of my body as its last breath of life was
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a teardrop leaving my body because there was nothing else. And I accept it. And that's
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when I start separating from it and realizing that it doesn't hurt anymore. At this stage,
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I was in an intermediate place. I was still holding to the physical life, but I was trying
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to get away from the pain, I'm dissociating from my body. And this is when I start noticing
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around me that the sand, that the concrete, the trees, the wind, I could see the air between
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myself and the walls, myself and the trees. What we see as empty space, I see this as
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not empty space. You can see everything as current. You can see the life on the tree.
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You can see, it's like you have an x-ray. You can see that everything is alive. Everything.
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I realize, oh, this doesn't hurt. And it seems like it's not the end. So I slowly, slowly,
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but very fastly start accepting and letting go. And as soon as I feel no pain and I started
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feeling into the blissful states that we are, I start moving away from the body. And I see
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the body flat on the floor. I see the trees and the sand of the world. And I start seeing
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the planet getting smaller, alive, but smaller and me going. And then I just change direction.
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I'm thinking and thought and conscious. It's like, okay, so what's next? This doesn't hurt.
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This feels great. This doesn't hurt. What's next? And I go into this black space, feeling
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amazing, still feeling the best feeling I could ever describe. And I see the light at
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the end of the tunnel, the traditional light at the end of the tunnel. And as I see the
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light, I'm immediately attracted to it. And I go through it, go to it, which, which feels
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like a tunnel, but it's not really, it was, no, it's an empty space with a light that's
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just the speed of going. And then starting to be curious and excited and happy because
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I feel amazing. And I see that there's something else. So all these emotions in these thoughts
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come very, very fast and very real, very aware and very obvious. I disconnected from my body
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already. I didn't care about my body on the floor of the garage anymore. I'm just like,
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Oh, and that's when I get to the other side of the dead light was this, this signature,
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this is the light signature, though powerful and so beautiful. And so the feeling is indescribable.
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It's, it's your love life. It's what I call it. And I'm faced with it. And we're there
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and I'm feeling amazing. And it's, what are you seeing while you're feeling all this?
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It's, it's, it's ghost progressive. So with all of this now comes a lot of learning of
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how, how my experience was. But as I start having questions and answers, you start taking
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conclusions and you start realizing how to communicate. So in the beginning, I saw nothing.
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I just saw this light. And then through my educational as a Catholic person, even I stopped
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going to church where I started being so devoted to it when I was to kill the teenager or
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teen or something, those things are there and I was raised as a Catholic. So my first
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thought was, Oh, Christmassy God. So when I take that conclusion, it shapes a kind of
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old beard, white hair, man with a long white robe stuff. So that light starts gaining shapes.
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And then I realize I must, so this must be heaven. And I start seeing energetic clouds,
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not, not the traditional clouds, but we were above this field of waves and currents and
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colors. And as I start making assumptions, they start getting shape, depending on my
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assumptions. So that starts forming. And then I start seeing what I now understand that
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it was other souls floating around just a clear image that we were on the other side.
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So basically that was what I started seeing. So the images of what I see are progressive
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to the mind, the conclusions. Yeah, just for our listeners, I want to explain something.
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And that is that you're using your hands very much almost like charades at the same time
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that you're explaining. It must be hard to find all the words to explain all of this.
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It is. So anyway, so I just wanted to explain that to our listeners that I wish you could see
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because Sal's hands are doing all these things and I don't really know how to explain it. But I
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think the impression that I'm getting is the experience was overwhelming enough. You're at
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somewhat of a loss for words. Yeah. And that's why your, your hands are trying to help you put it
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together. So anyway, gather all the adjectives you know, and let's keep, let's keep going through it.
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So you're starting to see things. And you think that a lot of the things that you're seeing are
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based on your background, your religious background and things. Yes. Why do you think that is?
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Because you have the clear understanding of how powerful your mind is and how it creates.
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You start understanding immediately how your thoughts dictate whatever you experience.
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You see it happening. And there's no other way to describe it. So you see how your,
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your thinking still up there, still in a non-physical state, still dictates your experience.
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And that was one of the best lessons that I brought back with me to really understand
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how powerful our thoughts are because of their, that that's what's happening because all the questions
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that I had, and I start putting them up, they started being answered. Can you give us an idea
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of what some of those questions were? First question, why am I going through this? And the immediate
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answer because that's what you asked for. And the, when the answer comes, doesn't come just as a block
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of information, comes with image and, and moments like it, it proves, it gives me a clip of the
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moment that I desired for it. Like we travel back three weeks. And it was like, because here you
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chose this with all this power and emotion and direction and focus. And then, oh, and what got
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me through it. And then this got you to that, that situation that they took you to make that decision.
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And again, the same goes like a map back, backtracing why everything goes because my questions
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were mostly focused on why and how and what for. And as I asked questions, that's when we jumped
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to their life review, which we went to the beginning of, which is also very obvious
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and immediate understanding that, because it's very clear, they were with the information,
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basically, okay, so this time around, putting it very, very obviously. And also you feel it
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when I say that this, you should have mentioned this before. When you're up there, when you're
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reaching and get faced with this, with this bright night, it's like, it's like I got reunited with
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the rest of me with my other selves, with my whole self. It's like, it's like the me here on the planet
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puts just a very small fraction of my real self, fulfilling your fullness and, and blissful and
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and ecstasy. That comes, that feeling comes with rejoining with what I knew, which was the rest of
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me, the whole of me, that I'm just a part, the part of me that it's here on the planet. All of
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those things become obvious and very clear. Then it starts from the beginning, that's where it goes
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to, okay, so this time around, when you chose to go by go meaning sending a little part of you,
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like dipping your toes in the planet earth, this time to see how the world appears. And that's what
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we did. That's what you did because it's what you wanted. You wanted to go as yourself this time
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around to experience this. So that's all very obvious and very clear. Because there's no,
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there's no doubts. It's all part of the informational scabble. And it goes to, okay, so this time
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around, it goes from the moment when I was born, this time physically born. Okay, so, so we're jumping
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into the life review here. Some people have told me that they their life review was almost like
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going to a movie theater. And they were watching it on a big screen or even a stadium and they were
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watching it on thousands of screens. Seems like everything that's happening to you so far is just
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all these images and thoughts being put into your head. So was the life review like watching a movie
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or was it more delivered straight to your conscience somehow? Or how did that? How would you describe that?
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From this moment where when I've asked a few questions and and the answer were given and that
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was this this feedback going on this clarification going on. From the moment we jump to the life
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review of this of this time around, it goes on to a movie. It goes on to a screen. It's like you see
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on these movies where the screen is just a glass, a transparent glass that it's there between us.
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And the movie just shows up in this screen in between us. So it's like this, I call it an entity,
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this this source of light, this energy source on the other side. And I'm here and this in this screen
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just comes between us and it is like a movie. This one is like going to the movies, but it's like a
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it's like a transparent transparent glass screen between us and the movie and we're both watching
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the movies. I'm watching from here, he's watching from there. And the movie starts like a movie
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theater. Yes. Yeah, what kinds of things did you see all of your life or certain important events or?
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We went from the beginning of my life and it was interesting because it was not just a movie
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as pictures. It was like we had the movie and then we had that time and space moved by social
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behavior, social worries, all the ingredients that make decisions happen, they are present. It's like
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it's like it's not just a movie by itself was very, very complete with how people are thinking,
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what you why you can feel the essence of why people are making decisions like that and what's
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going on in the black, what's what's the time concern of that age. So it was very complete.
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And the movie goes fast until I had the question until I had the questions. When I had the questions
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like, oh, wait a minute, either I don't remember that though, what was that? Why was that so?
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Where was that so marking or so important to me at that search that we would make a pause? The movie
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would pause and we would have an explanation. Kind of because this is coming from the sides,
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there's a pressure or there's an intention or an emotion coming from the end. There's another
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emotion, there was another intention coming from the sides. This causes this emotion and
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causes you to decide like this. So you took that action and we decided for that the episode would
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get sorted and explained and resolved. I would make it would make sense to me. It was very beneficial
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because I could see that previously when I was a teenager or when I was in drugs or when I was
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angry or whatever, when I was getting taking rash decisions, the blaming of others completely
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disappears. The forgiveness is immediate, the forgiveness because it's very clear that everybody's
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acting out of love and out of their best knowledge and out of their best interest.
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So I could see that there was no one to blame on any episode. It made sense why I made that choice.
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It made sense why the other person made that choice. All the episodes I had doubts were related to
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human relations, right? Because it's what usually causes more conflict. It's human relationships.
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Can you give me an example, a specific one? We started thinking why was I angry with my parents
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at that day and age? Why was I blaming them so much that I wanted to take a rational decision?
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Why was I so upset that I ran away and I would understand, okay, why was I angry?
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That kind of situations and then understanding that there was no one to blame. There was no
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that everyone's acting out of love, always acting out of love, even if we feel
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triggered by something. It's our process but that everything works perfectly. That
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everything made sense and it would be like, of course, when I would do that. Of course,
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my father would. I would do the same if I was in their shoes or so immediately every subject that
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I had as a counselor got clarified and basically loved all the episodes that I had angered with
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war was just full of love now. And you mentioned someone being on the other side of this screen.
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Was that God? Was that, do you have any idea? I'm going to be a bit blunt on this one. Today,
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I know we work with whatever I want to believe so it is. Okay, so if I want to skip, I can,
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I understood further on that interview I called it on that episode. I understood how
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even let's call it God, even God itself has descendants or sons or separations or continuations
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of ramifications. Let's call it ramification, the ramification of God and then those ramifications
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will have more ramifications. The same is that the lungs work, same as the roots on the tree work,
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the same as the universe works, all the ramifications that exist onto each other.
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It's the same current, it's the same information. If you want to call it whatever I want to call it,
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it doesn't really matter. And I know this is not very clear but... No, it's not. Come on. Did you
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feel like this was, and whether the name is God or whatever, source or whatever, did you feel like
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that's who it was or somebody else? Yes, 100%. Okay, now I'm curious, as you're watching these things
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in your life, we're not all proud of every single thing that we've done and this grand being is on
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the other side, were you feeling guilt for any of that or were you just learning and being taught
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something? Nothing, nothing else, loving and loving, no guilt at all. No guilt at all, there's no
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guilt because that's the whole point. There's no guilt at all, there's no guilt. You're free of choices
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but not free of consequences so that's very obvious too but there's no guilt, there's no guilt.
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So you were learning from what you were watching then, it sounds like? Yes, a lot, I was learning a
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lot. Is there anything else about the life review you want to describe to us? Yes, the freedom that
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we have in our pre-gult more in actually shaping our experience, that life review, it's just career
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through that when I chose to go right, there was nothing stopping me from going left when I chose
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to go up or when I chose to go down, where I chose to say yes or no, every decision that I made,
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there's no obligation, there's no determined but there's no, it's an endless option at any time,
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you can start at any time, you can make a new choice at any time. That's why we were laughing
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because sometimes you're like, well you gave me all of this and this is all I did, you know,
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I have this chance to go down there and do this and this is what I was worried with but
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at the same time I could see what the core of my interest, the core of my passions,
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core of my excitement, they were there and when I would allow myself to fall in there,
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then that type of satisfaction that comes, it was when the whole was benefiting from it,
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that was also an incredible thing to understand that at the times that I'm not listening to anyone
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or to circumstances or to anyone, I'm just following my true self, that excitement and
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the gratification that it brings you, that satisfaction, being honest to yourself,
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that excitement that I feel, it's like it's channeled up to the whole again, to them up there
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and to the whole gratification, basically the lesson that was almost the only time we were being
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was useful to the whole when we can honor who we are and what our highest excitement was,
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like what are we here for, what am I here for and respecting your honest interests and your
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honest callings, the joy that it gives you, the excitement that it gives you when you're doing
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that, that's when you're benefiting. That makes sense. Yes, there was also very
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clean work with you. Okay, how did it end? Well, it ended on that day that I was falling in the
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grass. Okay. So we went through all the dramas and the conflicts and the fights and the angers,
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the things that motivated me at the time, the things that made me take decisions, took me where I
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was and there was no regrets or guilt, but there was also no more blaming anyone else.
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There was a satisfaction, there was a laughing, basically the laughing of isn't this fun,
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isn't this fun like we are so powerful and so blissful and so pure and so, but we go there to
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the planet, we chose to go there, we choose to go there, bang our heads together, suffer and
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trip and fall and hurt and fight and in the end, isn't this fun? I'm just laughing about it and that
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was, that was a huge laugh. There's nothing here to take so seriously. There's nothing here. And
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I'm to speak because I was so depressed and so angry that I almost killed myself or which I didn't,
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well, the point is the fact that we were just laughing of isn't it fun and so we got to the
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point where I was so depressed because someone didn't react the way that I would like them to
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react and I got so depressed and so upset that I was upset. It didn't do what I want them to do,
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how they're like and obviously they don't have to, nobody has to, nobody has to do anything that we
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want. But I love hearing that in the spirit world there's humor and laughter and we laugh about
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things. Oh, everything, this, which will get us to the end of how it ends, which when we see all
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the, after all these conflicts because we stopped and cleaned up all the major dramas and events
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and events that mark what I used to call my life and laughing about it, laughing about how silly
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is this. And then we ended up, we got to the part where I was on the floor of the garage
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and loads to meet him. And by this time I was feeling so well and so happy and so comfortable
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back in my spiritual form. I was so happy and everything was resolved. It was like getting
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rid of this burden. You know, it was like, Jesus, water, rides, everything is clear when everything
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is rid of and everything is clarified and I'm not angry with anyone and I'm not blaming anyone,
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I'm just having so much fun. And now we're starting to get comfortable there thinking, okay,
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what's next? And immediately between us comes that feeling in the air of the option. What's next?
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And I see a multitude of options again, a multitude of options with the planet earth
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being just one of them here in the corner. During this conversation and the live preview,
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that's where I saw other souls floating around us and going and passing some closer, some further
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away. Some might feel I know them, there was this feeling of familiarity, some there was no
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feeling of familiarity, but I was comfortable around them and they were comfortable around me.
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And that's the moment where immediately my mind goes to or my essence goes to, I'm not done.
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There's things I would like to do better. There was things I would like to,
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I would have liked to have used all of this in a better way if I knew any better. There was a
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feeling that I was at the time. And immediately the response was then it's time to go back.
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And I didn't even have a chance to say yes or no, because the feeling and the answer was so obvious.
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So we start moving away. And I'm like, well, it's all, we separate, I separate from the
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entity at the same progressive speed that I approached and I start looking to the other
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side of the machine. I see the planet coming closer, the planet getting bigger. And then myself on the
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floor of the garage and then so I go to the body. I open my eyes, I get some air. I managed to get
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some air. The excruciating pain is there. And I crawled for a little bit. I managed to turn
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myself around in the shant because I couldn't move my arms or my body. I crawled initially.
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Then I got up and I fell, then I crawled. But I had in me, I knew I could do it this time,
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because God just told me it's time to go back. So suddenly I was with all the joy and all the
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laughter of our conversations just now in this body, in this wrecked body. But I had no fear.
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I had no doubts. And I crawled myself back to the house where my grandmother was. I managed to
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crawl in and get into the house. And the only words I can tell is called an ambulance. And she
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said, you're so pale, you're so white. Have some water and sugar, some sugar and water.
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That'll solve everything. Yes. I love grandmas.
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Do the best. And I had to repeat, just call an ambulance, please. And I pass out
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this time on the couch. And then the second stage of the process starts.
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Let's take a breath. Okay, you're back. I felt like I was holding my breath the whole way,
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like you sort of were. So, okay, now you've got an ambulance coming. Let's pick it up from there,
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because this is not the end of the story. Yeah. Well, because we were in the countryside,
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there was no ambulances coming there any near us. So, but luckily, my next neighbor in the
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countryside was an uncle with an East wife, is a nurse. And so my grandmother, new scholar,
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circulated, let me call, let's call your aunt to come over. And luckily, they were home and they
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came running. And with my cousin, they were on the motorcycle ride, because that's where they
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lived. So, they made it home. And so all of them came because my grandma was worried. And she
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immediately, out of her, she puts her hand on my hand or something. But to her being a nurse,
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they immediately just picked me up and put me in the car. So, we're gonna drive them to the medical
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center straight away. This was a weird, was a weird part. When they picked me up, I have my two
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cousins picking up one on each leg, one on each leg, and my uncle and my aunt on each arm, and
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they're carrying me horizontally on the couch to the car. And I remember looking over the side,
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and I see what's known as the, what's his name, what people call the death cartoon figure, the
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reaper, isn't it? The one with the black hood. Yeah, grim reaper. The grim reaper. So, the black
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tape with the hood and the big sickle and yeah. So, you saw a figure like that? Yeah, standing
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right behind them on the side of the house, watching them carrying me to the car. That doesn't happen
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every day. Yeah, and I'm like that. And I'm barely breathing, barely, you know, I'm very, very
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dazed. I don't know what's the word, but I'm pale and cold, I'm sweaty. And I see that
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that grim reaper there, and there's a kind of a communication kind of that I felt its essence,
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the essence of each other. Which felt like what? Like he's available to work if we call him. That
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was the vibe that I got. Like you called me, it was like, you called me and I changed your mind,
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that's fine, it's fine, go ahead. It was that there was a feeling that I got. It like,
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that's the figure that we gave him. Somehow I don't know how old it is, the figure I gave him to
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the grim reaper. I don't know the origins of the grim reaper. But the signature, the energetic
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signature was there, that that was the shape of the figure and definitely the dress code. And that
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was the interest change that we had. And I see him again later. I'll see him again later. And
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the vibe, the feeling that the answer that I got was that I was laughing kind of almost again,
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almost again, like back in my humaneness, blaming him, like, huh, they're trying to get me,
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haha, here you go, I'm stronger or whatever, you lost or something like that. And he was like,
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no, you just called me, I'm available to work. I'm on call. You called me to come,
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now you change your mind. It was this, and he's like, huh, very matter of fact, it wasn't like,
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I'm coming to get you, buddy. Not at that. Yeah. No, very, very unemotional. Okay, so you get to
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the hospital, everything's cool. So not really. So they take me to the medical center of town,
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which was a small village and the doctor, they call the family doctor, this is a small village,
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he comes over, puts me all the he says immediately, he's having a heart attack, puts me immediately
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older, the heart monitor things. And because the MR says you guys have to go now, his heart attack
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described by him, this is a massive heart attack, he comes straight away. And the ambulance counts.
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Now I'm no expert at all. But my understanding is, with a big heart attack like that, the more
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time that goes by before you get help, the more damage done to your heart. Is that correct? Did
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they tell you that? Yes, 31% damage to the heart muscle, 31% on that episode. That's how much you
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had? Yes. That's a lot. Yeah, not a big scar and some damage. And then when I'm in the medical
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center, and I'm again in that halfway stage between seeing, I cannot go back, I cannot not see
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everything as energy and alive. It's like speaking to a person in that stage would be the same to
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speaking to a wall. I was speaking to conscious and I was speaking to life. It was weird. It was
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after seeing that the tree is alive, the same way that is the molecules of my body or the
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drawer or the concrete or that everything that's around is alive. So the respect I gained out
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of this experience for everything that surrounds me, for the air that you breathe, for the oxygen
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that keeps us alive. My most valuable thing at the time was oxygen. I needed to get oxygen in me,
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right? Because I needed to breathe to feel alive again. And nothing would come as close to feeling
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on the other side away from my body. Because it feels amazing and I don't need oxygen. I wouldn't
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need food. I don't need nothing to feel amazing. So here I was back in my human body. I asked him
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for pain killers and they didn't want to give me pain killers because they thought I was having an
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overdose. Oh, then there was that side. The human side was, he used to be a drug addict,
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he's been clean and sober for four years. He had a relapse. As it happens traditionally with
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drug addiction, when people sometimes relapse, it's your body so clean and the drug is so powerful
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or you don't know what you're doing and then you get an overdose. So the doctors didn't want to
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give me anything because they were afraid it would react with whatever I would have taken.
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I was like, no, I didn't take anything. And I needed pain killers. Just give me something
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because it hurts. And they didn't want to give it to me. And the ambulance arrived and I'm questioning
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again, have I done the right choice in coming back? Because I've been pain since I've been back.
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Sure, I get it. I mean, you felt great there and not anywhere close to great here.
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And so when they take me to the ambulance, I see this time I see two figures. I see the green
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reaper and I see a figure of a priest. So the green reaper was there again, but I also see a
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priest. They put me in an ambulance. I start asking for my more pain killers. They don't want to give
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it to me. And I quit. I say, you know, effort. You guys don't want to give it to me. I'm dealing
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with humans again. I feel, why do I need to fight? Why are you not listening to what I'm telling you?
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I'm just speaking with all honesty with all my heart. I'm telling you, hey,
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it's fine. I need pain killers, give me pain killers. I just came from speaking with God and
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these idiots, I'm sorry for that. But that's how I felt at the time. Freakin idiots as freaking
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don't know what you're doing. You know, listen to me, give me the pain killers. And they didn't.
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I said, okay, I'm going to go again. And I decided to go again. I went back up, left the body,
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back to the blackness, back to the whole light, back to the presence, back to the stealing of,
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so good. There's so much better. It's such a relief. But then I get confronted with another
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situation, which is the non-stopping of evolution and consciousness and progress, the growth,
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the growing of being. I get confronted with this situation now. So now I am in a place,
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kind of the message that I get from the entity again is like, yeah, the fact that you come here
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doesn't mean that you're just going to sit there on the end. Just we are growing, we are evolving,
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we are moving. There's no being stopped. There's no rest. There's no restness. There's nothing,
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there's no stillness. This is always growing and moving. And this is, there's always unknown,
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and there's always progressing. And there's always, it's a constant evolution. And this is the time
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that they shocked me. They shocked me to bring it back to my body. So I'm speaking with the entity,
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because this is explaining this space to me. I see another level of the, that's why I was
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mentioned before at the beginning, that level of the fructalic construction of consciousness and
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life, how it keeps growing in a fructalic way, if you understand the terminology, it's like a
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fractal. It's like the roots of a tree. And they keep growing and growing and growing and expanding
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and expanding and expanding in all directions. In every direction, it's expanded. What we can see
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the good, what we can see the bad, what we can see the better or worse, it's only perspective. It
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grows in every direction. It has to grow in every direction. So it grows. And I was having
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questions answered and clarifications on the change on composition of life, the existence,
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where is this going? Oh, then it brings me back to my body. I wake up again, oh, when I see the
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nurse looking at me. I don't see the paddles because they took it from the side, but I see,
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I see their hands are there and they're there looking at me and the nurse is looking in my eyes.
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Kind of, I see how scared he is because he knew it lost me. And she's looking at me,
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biggest eyes. And the first thing that I say is, he did a pain chill. And he says, okay,
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I'll die if you don't, right? Exactly. And you meant it. Yeah. And he did. He was like,
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I'll give you just a little bit. Whatever. Just, it's all right. You've got another experience
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coming up a few years later. Is there anything you want to bow you want to put on wrapping up this
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one here before we move on? The benefits of just listening to yourself, listen to your heart,
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just listen to your heart. Everything is there. All the answers, all the energy, all the resources
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that it is okay to choose whatever you want to choose. It is okay to do whatever you want to do.
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It is okay to experience whatever you want to experience and believe in it. And I mean,
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the more you focus on it, the more you get it. That was to wrap up this, the old knowledge that
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once, because then I practiced it for, it was 27 now, 45. Yeah. I tried this for a long time.
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Yeah. So 18 years since then. So yeah, that's, oh, that's young. 27 years old. Have that kind
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of heart attack. Have two near death experiences where you actually leave your body. Yes. But you
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had one more, didn't you? I had one more. Go ahead, jump forward to there. Again, relationship. So
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we had this lockdown, right? Three years ago, there was a lockdowns and all this stuff. They
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said that people looking back at the COVID people, some people had babies and people got a pet,
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some people get married, some people got divorced. That was a decisive point in life, right? It was
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a decisive point in this planet. I got into a relationship at the time, but because I'm a
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yacht captain, I was stuck with a boat. We were coming from the Caribbean and we stopped in Miami
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and I got stuck. We couldn't leave anymore. We put the boats at the river and half of the crew
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had to go home because it was a world pandemic. They had to travel and I stayed with a person on
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the boat. I ended up having a relationship and soon after I realized it was not the relationship
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that I wanted, but I couldn't run away from it. Obviously, it was the COVID. Well, all the excuses
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I was giving myself, I could, but it was not the best of all. But anyway, the relationship was very,
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very, we would have emotional peaks of extreme passion and love, through extreme anger and
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fighting. And one thing I knew from myself, from my previous hard life, that I don't get involved
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in hard fighting. I don't. Well, another thing I learned from the New York experience with my
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third episode was whatever you want to do. Oh, I don't want to do this. Okay, just do it. Go,
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do it. Keep it a little. Can I say best to you? And all we knew what you want to do is to do it.
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I respect that a lot. I don't get in fights. I don't get in arguments. I do you, you do you.
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You do you, you argue me, that sort of stuff that, you know, you're free to do. Because arguing is not
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good for my heart because my emotions and my physical body react very quickly. So that relationship,
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I was suffering with it. I was getting a lot of physical pain in my heart with it, because we were
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fighting a lot. And it was like, okay, you can share with my, you know, this is going to go one
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of these days, you're going to be so angry and so upset because you're arguing the basic perspective.
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Because it's all it is just a waiting perspective. And you're going to fall again on her with another
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heart attack. And I want that. I ran away. I said, we have to break up for this seventh time.
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We have to break up. We fight a lot. This is not a good relationship. And one day I was arguing
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on the phone and she calls me back and she starts shouting at me and I was arguing on the phone.
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I started getting so angry and so agitated that I was with somebody else on another boat and I said,
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call an ambulance. I know what's happening. And each time he drives me to the ambulance,
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we have to meet an ambulance halfway because of the traffic. The ambulance cannot make it on time.
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So this guy, very good mate, puts me in his car, drives through traffic like an maniac,
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crosses everything, takes me to the ambulance. And the ambulance says, I was still very conscious,
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really half aware, half conscious on that hazy phase of seeing everything as energy. And they
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monitor my heart and they say, you're a 220. How long have you been at 220?
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Your pulse, your heart rate? Yes. Yeah. Well, that's really high.
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Was it 220? And the other guy says, well, we took us 15 minutes to get here. So it's been 15
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minutes at 220. And the guy says, okay, I'm gonna have to shock you. And I know first he says,
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I'm gonna give you some drugs to reduce the speed. And I was like, sure, do what I'm trying to do.
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He gives me the drugs, an injection, and it doesn't change. Or it dropped, I think it dropped to
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18 for a few seconds, and then went above 220 again. And he was like, oh, this is not working,
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we're gonna have to give you again, see what ever you want to do. It gives me another injection.
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And I feel it dropping again a little bit, but not fixing it going back up again.
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And he says, I'm gonna have to to shock you. And I tell him, you can't because I have a diffie
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brillator. Oh, in this 18 years of my, my process at some point, they decided to install me a diffie,
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a pacemaker with a diffie, because they say, well, you're super healthy. There's another thing I would
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like to say. Obviously, after my heart attack, I did I changed in every areas of behavior.
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And food and exercise was obviously one of them. And each time I went back to my doctors,
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they would call the other cardiologists because they could not believe the progress I was doing
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physically, because they said the heart is not supposed to regenerate. It's the only organ
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that wants it's damage, it's damaged. And I changed my food habits, I changed my exercise,
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I changed my routines, I changed my mental exercises, meditation, rituals, the priorities.
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And I got to, I was getting better, healthier, I was getting healthier. So I could run the
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marathon. I was, I was, they couldn't believe I was very, very healthy. But at some point, they said,
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okay, they also told me when I left the hospital, here's seven pills you must take per day. And
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you can't work, you can't do nothing, you can't get emotional, you can't get nervous, you can't
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get angry. And I remember clearly saying to the doctor after one year of recovery, I said, listen,
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doctor, I'm gonna live my life. Okay, I just got back, I feel I'm fixed. I just leave your
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efforts, exams, and you just see how healthy I am. I want to live my life, I don't want any pills.
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And I don't mind if I die, because I know it will be the right thing to do if I disappeared,
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you know, it's fine. Don't worry, you shouldn't worry, nobody should worry, I shouldn't worry,
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because everything works perfectly. So don't worry with that. I'm enjoying it. But while I'm here,
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I'm going to follow what I've learned. Okay, I'm going to do what makes me happy, I'm going to do
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what excites me, I'm going to live my life. And that's, that's why I was sailing, I was jumping
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off an airplane, I was diving wrecks all over the world. I've been doing everything that I wanted
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to do, all my bucket lists, I've picked them all. But at some point, the doctor said, okay,
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then please, let me put you a pacemaker and a beefy, because in case if you have an attitude
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somewhere, at least you're protected, because you're going to be in the wild, I went to the
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desert, I went, you know, across the Atlantic Ocean nine times, I wanted to have excitement
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in my life. And I would reach to put the device, but they didn't put the settings on, they just
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put the device, but it was pointless, I don't know why they didn't get it right. But one condition
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when you have a beefy, we said you cannot be beefy by another device, because that can kill you.
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So what does the paramedic do for you then? Well, he says you cannot have a beefy because
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if you had one, it would have fired already, because you've been at over 220 for over 20 minutes.
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Yeah. So you have to, you don't have one. And I showed them it's here, I had one. And then it says
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that it's broken, because it should have worked. You cannot be over 220, over 20 minutes with a
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beefy. So that thing is broken, I'm going to shock you anyway. And I've insisted with him,
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because I had the message from the doctor says you cannot be shocked, you cannot be shocked.
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There's two devices, 400 volts, whatever it is, everybody gets shocked or something like that.
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But they shocked me. And I said, you know what, you're right, because I think this doesn't kill
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Gudam, but 220, I would do what you have to do. Yeah, do something, anything. Yeah. So he shocks me
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and that's when I go back to the other side, back to the darkness, back to the light.
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Did you have another life review? No, not a life review was isolated. I was feeling so
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comfortable. I was feeling was more isolated questions, isolated answers. What am I doing
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wrong? Why am I here again? Why did my thoughts, because I don't blame anyone, I don't blame the
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girl that I was dating for my heart attack. I don't blame her at all. My question was,
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what has been my thought process that brought me here again? Why am I suicidal? Because I know
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I also learned that every death is a suicide. Every death, what we call death, when people
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depart this planet is a suicide, all of them. It's not just when people get the resources,
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or they're there all the time. My death was a suicide. I called, I asked to be there. I asked
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for the green reaper to come and take it. You do know a lot of people are going to disagree with
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you on that statement, right? That's fine. That's fine. Yeah, that's okay. Keep going.
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I know. They have, I've been doing this for a while. I've been speaking about this for a few
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years. Oh, I know. I know some people I can feel it's pointless to speak about this. And some people,
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I know they're open to the idea. When we understand the power of thought and emotions, every thought
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is a suicide. Every thought, no, I'm sorry, every death is a suicide, because every thought, the
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power of thought, a conscious thought, and the choices where you put your consciousness through
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focus, whatever you focus on, you will get it. Whatever you focus the most, because if you focus
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about getting a pot of gold, three seconds every five days, you're not going to get the pot of gold.
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It's energy, thoughts. It's mind or matter. This has been the latest discussion. I don't discuss
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because if people don't want to believe that they were not open, I said, okay, that's fine.
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But I'm just sharing things that I know. Yeah. And I didn't mean to get you sidetracked.
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Was there anything else that happened in the spirit world this time that was different than
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the other times or new? No. It was different. We met in a different room, more evolved, more,
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I was more comfortable. The information was given in the same way. There was answers of why
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I was gone, because that was my main question, because I knew it was my thoughts that brought
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me to that state. And so my main question this time is, what am I going through? Which thoughts
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am I doing that are causing me this experience? And then I got the answers. That's clarification.
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And I was in there in peace for a while. I was just enjoying it for a while, and then I woke up
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in the bed of the hospital. And then it's all flowers and roses since then? If I so choose to.
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Yeah. If I wake up and I do my, I have meditation books and our views, I write 10 things. I'm
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grateful, sometimes 20 things. I'm grateful for every day since the Resort. I always do a
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gratitude for staying in the morning while I have my, first, even before I get out of my bed,
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as soon as I wake up to the meditation, I take profits of that moment of waking up without
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concerns or without the matter and being in that spiritual zone, that peaceful zone,
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to celebrate war and to see which thoughts really matter. And then I do make my coffee and I write
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my gratitude list for the day. Be it I'm grateful for my coffee, too. I'm grateful for the money in
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my bank or I'm grateful for girls' friend, whatever it is, small things, big things, whatever you
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want to. You need to find the joy in being here because this is what you will laugh about it
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when you get to be at the site. You will laugh about it and you will see how your choices and
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your thoughts create a different experience. That would have been a perfect ending to this podcast,
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but I have a couple more questions first. So that's fine. You mentioned a book and I know you have a
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book called Captain Heart and it's by the pen name of yours, George Adotzi. Is that book about your
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near-death experience or something else? Yes, it is. There's more information on it about what we
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just spoke of, but yes, it's about that. You can always fit a lot more in a book, a lot more detail.
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Well, is there anything else before we go that you'd like to share with our listeners, whether it's
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something that's going to help them in their life, bring them some joy at this point?
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Go within and find what makes you smile. Go within. If you're not having a good time of your life,
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if you're and you're blaming others and you're blaming circumstances or whatever it's going on
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around you, trust me, it comes from you. We come here to experience things. I know many people
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don't believe on mind over matter. They don't believe on the power of thoughts. That's fine,
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but imagine that. Just imagine hypothetically. It doesn't mean that I'm right or it doesn't mean
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that you're wrong, but imagine, let's imagine this apathetic world where whatever you would
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desire would come to you, hypothetically. So what would make you smile? What would make you happy?
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How would you like to spend your day? Just try it, hypothetically. Just imagine that the world,
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this is how the world would work, that you would bring to you whatever you spend more time thinking
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about. What would you do then? If that was a true fact, what would you do? What would you think about?
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What would you think about since you wake up? Or what would be the first two hours of your day
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that you would think about if what you think about brings you your experience? If this was true,
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what would you be thinking about? So hypothetically, whatever puts you smile in the
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way? That would be my advice. And ignore the rest. Ignore that somebody's not in the door,
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ignore that somebody asks you something, again, it would be something big, again, it would be
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wait a minute. And it's the care of my self. I cannot help you if I don't do that. So give me
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a minute and two hours for my show. I love that. How would people's lives be different if they had
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no fear of death? Because I can tell that you don't. Oh, not at all. There's no death. There is
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no death. There is no death. And this, again, I'm going to try to put it in the different worlds.
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This is like coming to a movie theater, or this is like going to an attraction park,
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where you choose to get in, you choose which rides you want to do, you choose which rides you want
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to do again or not. And you choose when to leave. And what people are not convinced is they think
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that somebody's going to kick them out of the attraction park, or you think that somebody's
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going to hold them in the attraction park, and now you have to work, and you're going to do this
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because you have to stay at the attraction park, and you have to suffer before you leave. No,
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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, none of that. You choose when you get in, you choose which rides
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you're going to take, and you choose when to get out. This coming in here is exactly like that.
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And you will laugh. Once you get out the attraction park, there was moments you were sad,
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there were moments you were scared, there was things you wanted to do again. But God, you want
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to go back. I love it. Thanks a lot, Sal. Appreciate having you on today. Well, I hope I've answered
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your questions. They do know I do go sideways. They're not some of the subjects and I
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sometimes it's hard to find the words or the vehicle to bring some information.
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Your English is pretty darn good. Don't worry about it. Thank you. Thank you, Eric.
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