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I had intense fear and panic because we were obviously crashing.
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Out of my heart came the thought, oh, God help, I'm going to die.
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From the time that they pronounced me dead was a good 45 minutes.
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It's determined that I was not breathing for 20 minutes.
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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart.
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My heart had stopped and I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize
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that was actually my physical body because I was somewhere else.
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About 20 past four in the afternoon, by half past seven I was dead.
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Clinically dead, four minutes.
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And they were crying because I was dead and I was trying to tell them, no, I'm not dead,
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I'm just fine, I'm okay.
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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.
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I started to feel like I was surrounded by all this warm, loving, beautiful, soothing,
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loving energy.
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I'm back with God again.
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I just felt this almighty release like, wow, I'm back, I'm back home again.
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Incredibly safe and felt at home.
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I'd come back home.
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It was a very strong feeling, I've come back home.
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The only thing that I could feel, if you can imagine absolute love and peace, there wasn't
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anything else to be felt.
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And light is literally emitting from him.
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And I could feel that that tremendous amount of love was coming through him as well.
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They were brighter than everybody else.
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And I just knew who they were.
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We would like to welcome onto the show with us today, Robin Peterson, who's over in the
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beautiful mountains of Colorado.
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Robin, how are you today?
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I am doing so fantastic.
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I'm so excited about all the things we're going to talk about today.
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And it happens to be beautiful up, which is fantastic too.
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It is beautiful here too.
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It is just a absolutely glorious morning today.
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Before we get started, I think I'll warn our listeners just a little bit.
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This is going to be an unusual interview today.
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Normally, we are digging deep into people's near death experiences and talking about all
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the little details and that kind of thing.
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Today is going to be much more about how to interpret those.
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And for people that have had NDEs and don't know how to process what they've been through,
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that's much of what we're going to be talking about with Robin.
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And would you mind giving us a little bit of your background?
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Absolutely.
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So how I kind of gained a lot of traction was years ago, right before the Japan earthquake
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and tsunami, I had predicted that and positioned myself.
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And because of that, people were starting to inquire certain abilities, capabilities,
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and gifts that I had.
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Because of that, I was being featured all over Discovery, CNN, National Geographic.
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I was in every type of documentary about the second coming, Armageddon, the Mayan calendar.
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And I became kind of an expert in that, mainly because I had some seer capabilities, meaning
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I could see things from the past, current, and future, especially if I hyper-focused
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on that.
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And then I also had a lot of training.
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So I'm a holistic doctor.
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I'm a homeopathic.
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I have a specialty in quantum physics.
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I'm a survival instructor.
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I'm a firearm instructor.
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I have extensive training and sniper training and all kinds of things.
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I would prepare people for catastrophic events.
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But as I was doing all of that kind of behind the scenes with the government and large organizations,
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people would hyper-focus on the doom side, not the doom and gloom, and never wanted to
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hear about the beauty and the miracles and the blessings that I would see with all of
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these experiences.
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So I kind of got out of that industry and started to focus more on the healing side
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and focusing on the miracles.
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And through that, which was in the last 10 years, I really started to develop a capability
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and spiritual protocols so that people could have the same experiences, the same gifts,
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the same visions, the same ability to see in past, current, and future.
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So I started training people on how to open up their third eye to be able to have revelation,
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visions, dreams, prophecies, and then go into spiritual gifts.
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If people want to have face-to-face contact with their heavenly family or what we call
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God, things like that so that they could.
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Because I always believed that there was nothing special about me, I think that everybody is
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capable and deserving, and it is something that is bestowed upon them if they invoke
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it.
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So I've had some very sacred, very deep, profound spiritual experiences, especially in the last
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15 years when I started to really inquire of these profound, above-us, higher things
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that we're talking about.
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And so as I was having my own experiences, I started to develop in a way where I wanted
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it on demand.
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And so that's when I started to create the protocols, how we could get there, how I could
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get there, how I could train others to get there.
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So that's kind of that in a nutshell.
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Thank you.
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And by the way, there's way more than we can talk about today, and we will put links in
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our show notes of how people can get a hold of you and find further information on some
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of these things.
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I'd like to start with people that have had a near-death experience specifically, since
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that's what mostly is on our show here.
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And one of the things that I find as I'm talking with these wonderful people who are sharing
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with us is that it's very difficult to process what they've been through.
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There are a really high number of divorces, for example, with people that have had NDEs.
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I don't know the reasons why.
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I don't know that anybody has really studied that specific thing.
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But I know that people are often changed.
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And so let's talk a little bit, Robin, about how do people process a wonderful experience
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like this that they have had?
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Well, I think where the challenge is, is when you've had a spiritual experience like this,
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which I can understand because I've had them too, is what happens is everything that was
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in your core belief, whether that was as an atheist or Christian or any type of religion,
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it doesn't matter.
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Now it just got shaken at its core.
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Everything you thought you knew, everything you thought you believed is now different
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in seconds.
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And on top of that, you have this profound information that is now you're unrelatable
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to the rest of the world, including your partner, which is isolating, scary, and lonely.
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And then you have nobody to talk to about it because they can't relate.
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And some of the things that you might say will also shake someone at their core of their
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foundation.
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So you have to be very selective.
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You have to be able to explain it.
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You want someone to connect with you on that level, or you're going to feel alone and reject
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it.
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Especially if the first people that you share with call you crazy and tell you to just be
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quiet.
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Oh, absolutely.
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And the only reason they're doing that is because they don't want to be shaken at their
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core.
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Especially like if somebody believes in God, and they're a Christian or they're LDS or
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whatever it is, and they really feel that they know God, and you're telling them something
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different, they have to reject that for their own sanity, their own core beliefs.
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Our core beliefs is our programming.
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That's like our core processor in our computer.
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We can't work that out and still go on every day.
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But for a person who has an NDE, that's what's happened to them.
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Their whole core processor of their computer has been ripped out, but they're supposed
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to just keep living, keep processing, keep going and computing, and they can't.
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And then for their closest friends and family, or even their minister, their bishop, their
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priest, to back off and then again isolate them, that's a crisis.
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So now they just had this incredible, beautiful experience typically.
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Some of them had to go a little dark for a minute, but usually it's always a beautiful
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experience one way or another.
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Then they go into this darkness of the world of the rejection and non-relating and isolation.
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It's almost, and I could see where some people can go into this place like, God, why have
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you done this to me?
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Why have you shown me all these things with no interpretation, no understanding?
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I can't talk to anybody about it.
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Now I'm alone and you're not giving me the multiple confirmations of what I'm interpreting.
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But there is a way.
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There is a way and unfortunately it's just not being trained or taught to the world.
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Nat.
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So what are some of the tools that might help them?
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Well, first, I think that there's this misconception, especially if you're a believer, that we've
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been taught to be humble, content and praise for what we have and what we've received instead
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of inquiring, almost demanding more, asking for more and seeking more.
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So there's a big difference there because humble means like you're not inquiring in
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a way, you're not seeking, you're not asking more of God or the world or whatever.
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It's kind of like waiting upon the Lord kind of feeling.
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But humbleness is really about being teachable.
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And when you're teachable, so for instance, everybody has dreams.
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There's normal dreams and then there's a dream that you have that's just different.
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You know it's different.
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It's almost like a warning, it's kind of prophetic, it's showing you something that's a little
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supernatural.
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Now everybody has those that most majority of the population you would say, but I don't
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know what it means.
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Very similar to what a near-death experience is.
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So whether it's a 10-point magnitude and a near-death experiences or two or three and
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a prophetic dream, they still don't have the understanding.
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Very similar.
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But this is how God and the universe or your heavenly family or whatever you want to call
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it, we all have these different titles.
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Okay, but this is how it works.
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We get something and then they see how we react to it.
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Are we inquiring of it?
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Do we want more or did it overwhelm us?
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Did we dismiss it?
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Did we just say, hey, cool, thank you, that was an awesome dream.
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And then we moved on and didn't think about it again.
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That's the difference.
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So when you have an experience, it's an opportunity.
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It's like a door being opened up to you to inquire.
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But what's cool about God and our whole heavenly family is what some people label as our spiritual
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teams or spirit guides, all of it.
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They're all in a delegation team together.
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When that door is open, we have an opportunity to inquire, to seek, to ask, to get revelation,
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to ask for the capacity for our brains to expand so that we can understand.
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We can ask about very specific symbols, lights, things that we saw, things that we experienced,
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things that we felt individually one by one what they mean and then ask for more, ask
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for more understanding.
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But it needs to be line upon line.
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And most people believe that they'll never get the answers.
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They'll ask God maybe one time and if those answers aren't coming, then they kind of just
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give up and feel like it's going to be a mystery of their life.
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And then on top of that, if you are religious and you go and talk to a minister or bishop
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or your preacher, they don't have the answers for you either.
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So you'll typically hear things like, you know what, it doesn't pertain to your salvation,
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does it?
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So it really doesn't matter.
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Let's just focus on what really matters.
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And that's a way of justification or a blow off to you because they don't have the answers
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either.
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And then you give up again.
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So I would say it all starts with believing that you can inquire and get more.
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You don't have to have a near death experience to have that same experience again.
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And the cool thing about a near death experience is it's now just open something up in the
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brain physically to where you can now produce higher levels of DMT in the brain, which is
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in the pineal gland.
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And in that capability, you can now learn how to produce even more levels of TMT instead
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of dying to do it.
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And so there are some spiritual protocols that you can do that take some practice.
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You know, the more you put into it, the better it's going to be.
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But really, everybody has that capacity, but not everybody's willing to put in the work
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and experiment.
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And if I may just add something to this, I think sometimes it's beneficial to just be
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able to discuss this with somebody that can relate to it and be completely nonjudgmental
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about it.
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And a good place to find others like that is on the IANS groups, the International Association
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for Near Death Studies.
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And they have groups all over the country.
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And most of these, I've been to some of them, are just wonderful, again, very nonjudgmental
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people, that it's good, you know, it's kind of a shoulder to cry on type thing.
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And I think that can be helpful emotionally, as well as the spiritual side that you're
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talking about.
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Dr. Ketchum Absolutely, I was just going to say that all
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of my clients who do like my spiritual awakening classes that are trained to have these experiences
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or get confirmation about those experiences, I always put them on to group chats.
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And they all have each other's contacts.
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I have group chats going on still to this day from over 10 years ago, because they have
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all become best friends.
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They can talk about things with each other that they can never talk about with their
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spouse because they are now relating, they're bonded together.
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And they can give multiple confirmations to each other.
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Now that's the key.
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Confirmations are way more important than even the experience itself.
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And I'll give you an example.
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If God comes to me face to face, that is a pretty profound experience.
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Like almost everybody in the world would love that.
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But a month later, my human self is going to go into doubt.
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I'm going to question it.
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I'm going to wonder if I was hallucinating.
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I'm going to wonder if I am being deceived.
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I'm going to wonder if I have a mental illness.
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If I made the whole thing up, was it just a dream?
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Or maybe I had a fever.
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All that stuff is going to come into play and you're going to doubt.
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So this is why the scriptures say that we need a first, second, and third witness.
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So let's just look at witnesses more of a confirmation.
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I need multiple confirmations that that was real, that that was true, that what I saw,
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what I felt was real.
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And that's why it's so important that people in those groups connect because A, they can
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confirm, B, they can share a little missing piece of the puzzle.
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In my spiritual awakening classes, when I'm teaching this how to open up the third eye
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and expand your levels of DMT in the brain, I teach them how to test things in the quantum
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field.
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So teaching how to test things that they're of truth and light.
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Are they real?
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Are they up to serments?
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Are they of 100% truth?
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Am I asking the right questions?
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Things like that so that you can get one form of confirmation and then you can get a confirmation
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from God, you're having a family or others, that kind of thing.
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But it's really, really important to get those confirmations.
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And I think if people would learn how to get those in multiple ways, they would be better
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off because even if their spouse or their minister is telling them, no, that's crazy,
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you were dead, how do you even know?
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Or maybe that was just something you saw in your mind or whatever, then you would back
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off.
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Whereas you could get multiple confirmations and you don't need their confirmation because
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they're not aligning to you and they can't relate to you.
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That makes sense.
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Tell me about children.
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Is it any different with how we can help them process what they've experienced?
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I think that children don't have a difficulty processing the way that adults do because
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they don't have all of the baggage, the trauma, the belief systems of the world, of their
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schools, of religion, their trauma and defeat from their parents, things like that, that
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are restricting parts of the brain.
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So they can interpret things very basically, very simply.
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Whereas an adult's wanting it to be complex, they're wanting it to just be this Big Bang
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kind of story, whereas a child can interpret it very easily and simply.
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So I think that they're pretty well.
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But also I think if they need companionship in that, especially as they get a little bit
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older, then again, I would connect them to people that were in that age group that got
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a little bit older as well so that they have a different friend group.
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And this is what I call our tribe.
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These are our tribe.
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So we have friends and family that not necessarily are in our tribe and people need to be very
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clear about that.
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We love them, but they're not our tribe sometimes.
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It's definitely spiritually and intellectually.
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And so we have to find our tribe.
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Even if we had one or two in our tribe that we felt bonded with and connected with in
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these spiritual experiences, we will be okay.
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We can process.
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So it's not any different from an adult or a child.
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And one of the things also that I hear from people who had an experience as a child is
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back then, I just assume this was normal.
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Like everybody has an out of body experience and goes to heaven and comes back and like
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no big deal.
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But then if they tell it to a parent or a teacher that says that basically tells them
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they were crazy and that didn't even happen, now there's a little bit of damage that can
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be done.
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Oh, absolutely.
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When people are having these profound spiritual experiences, what happens is some of the things
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that you're going to see and feel and experience is completely opposite of what this world
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is teaching, the evidence, the tangible evidence that this world is showing you.
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And then on top of that, it's going to be opposite of what religion is also teaching
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you.
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And so at your core of who you are, you know this is true.
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And then when somebody like a teacher or a confidant or a parent or a minister is saying
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no because they can't relate and they believe they're right, then you now question everything
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at the core of what you know to be true.
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So let me just interject.
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You said this is going to be, you're going to learn things at the opposite of religion.
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Aren't there some things that are harmonious?
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You know, the fact that there is a God in an afterlife, things like that.
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Oh, absolutely.
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But think about the definition, okay, because the majority of, if you talk to a Christian,
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they'll say, I'm a God-fearing man.
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I'm waiting for the Lord's will.
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I'm waiting upon the Lord.
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I'm servant.
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I'm obedient to God.
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You know, words like that, okay, for instance, or God is judging.
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He knows every sin, every goodness, every bad thing you've ever thought, even just language
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like that, and then you go and experience God, it's going to be completely opposite
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because you're going to feel the most neutral, loving energy that is contradicting to that
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definition of God that the world is teaching.
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That's the problem.
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But I also want to say this, depending on what your belief system is, what you've been
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taught, you will experience a level of that so that your brain doesn't go on overload.
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So for instance, if I believe that God is on a golden throne and there's all these angels
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and what heaven kind of looks like, my NDE might start there, this white light, and I
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see God on a throne.
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So because my brain has to be able to conceive what's happening.
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And then all of a sudden, once I'm there and I understand what's happening, I'm connected,
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God might come off that throne and have a one-on-one experience with me.
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But you couldn't start with that one-on-one experience because your brain needed to say
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this is where I'm at first.
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This is what it looks like for me.
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This is what it would feel like.
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And then once you're there, He'll take you to a different level.
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And then that's when you feel all the stuff.
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That's when you can see other themes.
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But all of that is going to change your definition of what God is and what the world is teaching
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that God is because of the feelings you're getting, which is non-judgmental, which is
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very neutral.
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He's not a guru that needs to be praised and worshiped.
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He's so relatable with you.
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It's almost like you guys are partners in such this knowing of a relationship.
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And that's very casual and very neutral, which is a hard thing to comprehend.
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And it's a hard thing to explain to other people.
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Okay.
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I have a couple more questions.
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This one I think you've touched on just a little bit already.
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But I want to ask it in a different way, and that is for someone who has not had a near-death
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experience but thinks, oh, that would be so cool.
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I need to have that.
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I need those gifts.
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But they may not have that opportunity anytime soon.
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What do you say to them?
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You know, this is a dangerous game.
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I have a lot of clients who have said to me recently that they wish or they've been praying
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for a near-death experience so that they could have these similar experiences.
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And I also see a huge influx of people that are going to do DMT, ayahuasca, shrooms, microdosing,
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which means that people are desperate for a spiritual connection.
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And what I want to say is that an NDE or an ayahuasca journey is not going to make you
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interpret.
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It's not going to make you understand.
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It's not going to establish that spiritual connection because you can't just go do ayahuasca
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for eight hours in a village somewhere with some shaman and think that you've established
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connection or that your brain's going to be able to have the capacity to understand what
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you saw and what you experienced, just like an NDE.
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They can't process it.
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They don't understand.
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They can't explain everything.
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So what the real moral of the story is, is that people need to learn.
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This is a muscle.
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And if I go to the gym and I've never worked out before, I need to learn good form.
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I need to learn how my muscles work.
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I need to learn the way that each muscle group and what exercises.
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I need to eat right.
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I need to train.
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I need to dedicate to this.
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And my muscles will grow and develop.
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They'll become tone and strong.
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So this is the way that people need to be looking at the spiritual connection that they're
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so desperately seeking.
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And what's also interesting about that is that it's always evolving, meaning we should
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be looking for upgrades in our religious beliefs, our communication with God, our definition
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of God, because you're always going to start out on the lowest level.
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And that level sometimes you think is all enough.
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And then one day your prayers, your scripture, your church isn't cutting it anymore.
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It's not feeding you anymore.
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And because you're taught to be complacent, you're taught to be humble, to stick it out,
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you know, all those things, people get kind of stuck there because it once worked for
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them.
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It once was true.
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But you have to look for those cues when you're no longer spiritually growing or being fed.
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And so that's when you keep seeking and you go to a different level and you keep going
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and going and going.
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Now I can teach someone how to get there in four days.
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Absolutely, I can.
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Four weeks.
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Absolutely.
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As much time as you'll give me, I will give it to you as fast as possible.
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Because where that came to be for me is when I had my first face to face encounter with
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what we call God and what we call Christ, two separate beings.
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Everything about me would do anything to get it back.
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Anything.
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I was almost addicted to it.
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I wanted anything I could do to feel that presence, to feel that energy, to see that
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knowledge for my mind to be in awe again.
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To have 100% confidence in myself was the most profound thing.
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To have that neutral energy with God was profound.
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And so I kept trying to duplicate it.
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So I can totally understand why an NDE is just wishing and wanting to have a similar
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experience and people who have never had it are doing the desperate measures because I
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was there too.
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I kept demanding, I kept trying to duplicate.
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Was it my positioning?
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Was it this?
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Was it the words I said?
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I mean, anything to try to get it on demand.
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And so I was seeking, seeking.
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I was going into the woods.
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I was fasting and praying by myself, camping in high mountains, almost demanding of God
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to show me more, to get me more, to interpret these things.
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Let me have this another experience.
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Why are you giving me this one time and then you're not going to give it to me again?
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It's almost like dangling a carrot in front of my face and saying, haha, don't you wish
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you could have that again?
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But you won't.
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And so this anger starts to drive in you because you don't understand but you want more.
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This is a powerful place to be.
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And people often feel almost, gee, almost a mourning.
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Like I felt this amazing love and now it's gone and I miss that so horribly.
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And that's not easy to deal with either.
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It is.
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It's a loss and a longing.
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And most people, and again, it goes back to the humbleness, you know, like we don't know
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God's will, you know, we don't know why God takes lives.
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We don't know this.
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And it's because people don't have answers.
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So it's a justification.
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So you are trained to kind of give up when you can't get the answers to wait upon the
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Lord.
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It'll be revealed to you.
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Just be patient.
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But what I want to say is in that moment of longing, when you start to feel the anger
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of the loss, that is a moment that can propel you forward.
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It's an energy and a frequency where you can seek more if you don't give up.
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So I finally had it out with God about this.
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And I'm a brat with God, just so you know.
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I'm never complacent.
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I'm always kind of demanding.
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I'm very direct.
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And when I'm angry, I let it be known.
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And so for me personally, the most revelation I've ever received was when I have it out.
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When I have it out, when I'm yelling, I'm demanding, I'm questioning everything.
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That's when profound channels can actually open up, because your frequency, your intention,
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your momentum in that energy of your frequency is propelling you to receive.
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After I had these experiences, I want to be clear, I was able to continue to hear God
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audibly.
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But I couldn't demand or duplicate having the face-to-face encounter.
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That's where I was frustrated.
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So yes, I should be lucky and count my blessings that I could still have audible connection.
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Sure.
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But I wasn't, because I'm a brat.
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I wanted more.
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So I'm having it out with God and audibly, he says to me, Robin, a lot of people feel
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this way.
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A lot of people.
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A lot of people are asking and seeking the exact same thing.
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I'm going to teach you some spiritual protocols and you're going to create the spiritual awakening
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class.
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I'm going to show you how to increase your levels of DMT in the brain and we're going
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to experiment.
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And so that's kind of where it all came to be.
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I did like three experiment trials with a bunch of people to see if it was legit, because
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I'm a brat and I test God all the time.
473
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:22,720
And the scriptures tell you, you should, you know.
474
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,400
Well, yeah, is that really a test of God or a test of our own faith?
475
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:33,320
Well, it's both because you're trying to discern that I'm not being deceived.
476
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:39,040
And when you think like when the world is telling you, A, that's not God or, you know,
477
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:45,080
I didn't interpret it correctly or the minister or the prophet or the apostles have more revelation
478
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:49,560
than me, then I have to test God.
479
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:55,060
And in testing God, I'm testing my own discernment, my own spiritual connection.
480
00:29:55,060 --> 00:29:58,640
And this is the dangerous ground that we're taught not to do.
481
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:04,000
But for our own survival with having these NDEs and having these spiritual experiences,
482
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,360
these outer body experiences, we have to do that.
483
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,920
But this world is teaching you not to.
484
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:16,240
So questioning, you know, even what he's saying to me, I was still wondering in my own self
485
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,680
doubt, my human doubt that maybe I was making all this up.
486
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,560
Maybe I didn't really even have this experience.
487
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:28,800
So I had to push that boundary of what my definition of God was, because now it was
488
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:35,160
so different from what me as a gospel teacher, I was a gospel teacher for 15 years.
489
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:41,720
And having an experience face to face with God in two minutes, just in two seconds, everything
490
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,620
I'd been teaching and everything I thought I knew about God had changed.
491
00:30:45,620 --> 00:30:47,560
So yeah, I had to test God.
492
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:48,560
Absolutely.
493
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:54,240
Well, and I think when we do that, whether you call it testing God or testing ourselves
494
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,800
or whatever we want to call that, I think one of the reasons it works so well is because
495
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:05,160
our mind is now open, because we are saying teach me versus I know everything, I'm prideful
496
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,120
and shut down.
497
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,760
We're in a place to be teachable.
498
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:17,080
But there's one thing to be taught, because I can show someone something, right?
499
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:23,360
But if they don't know how to trust what I'm saying to them is true, if they don't know
500
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:28,140
how to discern, then there becomes a bigger issue.
501
00:31:28,140 --> 00:31:35,160
And if God is showing us something, no matter how big of a truth it is, we have to learn
502
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:40,480
it's not just him teaching us something, it's us learning of the confirmations that it's
503
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:43,440
true that this is actually God, I'm not being deceived.
504
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,200
That's the biggest, the biggest hang up for people.
505
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,280
Yeah, that's a very good point.
506
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,240
Okay, let's go in a little bit different direction.
507
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:57,360
I may need you to speculate just a little bit, but it does feel like there is sort of
508
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,320
a spiritual awakening going on around the world.
509
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:07,360
We have people in over 70 countries listening to this podcast, for example, and you mentioned
510
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:13,680
people, you know, doing mushrooms or, gee, I read Steve Jobs biography a little while
511
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:19,880
ago, and he said, everybody should do LSD once in their life to have the spiritual awakening.
512
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:25,720
We're not condoning that what the question is, why do you think this is going on?
513
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,720
And what's happening?
514
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,920
Well, I think first, it's become trendy.
515
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,080
And when more people are speaking about it, and plus we have more, you know, social media
516
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,640
platforms and podcasts talking about it.
517
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,040
I mean, Joe Rogan is one of the number one podcasts.
518
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,560
He's amazing, but he talks about it a lot.
519
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,240
So you're hearing it.
520
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:48,040
And they're talking about these profound experiences.
521
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:55,240
Now I, you know, I'm not going to preach that those things are bad.
522
00:32:55,240 --> 00:33:04,280
But what I will say this is that every single person that I've helped in those experiences
523
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:11,800
afterwards during whatever, what I want to say is that they are so far out there that
524
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:19,320
they have reached a level of sight or an experience, but it never established the connection that
525
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,840
they were seeking.
526
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,160
So it's really about what is your intentions?
527
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,160
What's your intentions?
528
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,000
Do you want to just have this amazing experience, just like going on a vacation, and then you
529
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:31,320
come home and you go back to your normal life?
530
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,200
Then sure, I can understand that.
531
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:38,640
But if your intention was, I want to know what's beyond this world, I want to know what's
532
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:39,920
beyond this dimension.
533
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,840
I want to know truth.
534
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:47,800
I want to feel if God is real and the connection that God has to all things.
535
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,760
That's a different intention.
536
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:55,360
And you're not going to get that from ayahuasca, DMT, shrooms, you might get a feeling, but
537
00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:58,680
it's just like going on a vacation and then you come home and you go back to your normal
538
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,840
life.
539
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:00,840
So what's the intention?
540
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:05,520
Are you looking for something that's life altering that is now a part of your practice,
541
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:13,000
a part of your memory, a part of your programming, a part of your now way of life?
542
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,520
Then there's better ways of doing that.
543
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:19,200
So let's just say I reach a level of enlightenment.
544
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,720
I had this profound experience.
545
00:34:20,720 --> 00:34:27,600
I saw God, I saw the heavens, I saw the eternities, and then I got to go back to my normal life.
546
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,600
But I'm in this enlightenment now.
547
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,920
Okay, great.
548
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,360
Now you're alone.
549
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,120
What does that serve?
550
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:41,000
You want to stay in your meditation and in your spiritual awakening and your enlightenment?
551
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,560
Well, nobody can relate to that.
552
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,560
You're now alone.
553
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:48,080
Your friends don't want to talk to you about it because it's too woo woo.
554
00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,980
So what did that do for you?
555
00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:54,560
How are you serving yourself, your family or the world in any capacity when nobody can
556
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,960
relate to you or want to talk to you about this?
557
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,760
Because the things you're saying sounds cool.
558
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,800
And that's what people like when they do these mushrooms and they do all this meditation
559
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,520
to get really woo woo far out there, but they're not grounded.
560
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,000
And they want to stay in that energy.
561
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,920
But it's like, what did that do for you?
562
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:17,280
So again, it has to be all integrated.
563
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,360
We live in this world.
564
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,960
And this world is not up there in those higher dimensions.
565
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,560
So you have to take that knowledge of what you got in higher dimensions, what you got
566
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,000
with God, which is a higher dimension, and then be able to live in the world.
567
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,000
Does that make sense?
568
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:33,280
And most people can't.
569
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,720
Yeah, it's something that we need to learn how to do.
570
00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:39,760
And it's something that we just, you know, it's going to happen to us whether we figure
571
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,000
out a good way to do it or not.
572
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,960
Okay, let's take an even bigger shift now.
573
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,320
Okay, you promised we could talk about this.
574
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:49,320
Let's talk science.
575
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,680
Oh, I love science.
576
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,680
Okay.
577
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:58,160
I've had multiple people that have been on this show talk about when they were in the
578
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:03,280
spirit world, they learned quantum physics from start to finish.
579
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:08,440
They understood the universe and vibrations and all of these things.
580
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:12,920
And when they came back, they knew that they had learned it, they couldn't really remember
581
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:13,920
it.
582
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:18,680
Now they may have picked up a book on the topic and learned it quickly again.
583
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:24,480
How does quantum physics, the quantum field, the quantum realm, I don't know, use your
584
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,920
terminology.
585
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,080
How does that fit into all of this?
586
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:31,040
And what the heck is it?
587
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:36,600
I always say quantum physics, it's for smart people to know how God does it.
588
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,320
Okay, I want to know that.
589
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:41,560
Okay, I don't know if I'm smart, but I want to know that.
590
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:48,040
Well, people who are very analytical, engineers, people who have a little bit of autism, who
591
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,200
are very brilliant in their minds, don't under, because the things of religion that they're
592
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:57,880
teaching about God doesn't make sense to them, the order of how things are taking place.
593
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:01,800
So that's why we say like quantum physics is a way for really brilliant people to know
594
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,200
that God is real and how he does it.
595
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:05,200
Okay.
596
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:06,200
Or they do it.
597
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:08,240
So I'll explain it like this.
598
00:37:08,240 --> 00:37:09,240
Okay.
599
00:37:09,240 --> 00:37:14,680
Let's just say that the quantum realm or the quantum field is what Christians call God's
600
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,680
eye.
601
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,720
Everything exists, all the knowledge.
602
00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:19,040
He knows everything.
603
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,320
It's the knowing.
604
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:21,320
Okay.
605
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:26,440
Now, in that realm, we'll call it the quantum realm, everything is floating around like
606
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:27,920
wave particles.
607
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,600
That's what they are, they're wave particles.
608
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,760
Everything's a wave.
609
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:37,120
And in that, it's what the scriptures call matter, matter unorganized.
610
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:38,120
Okay.
611
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:44,280
So when, let's just say I'm trying to manifest something, like I want a new truck.
612
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,560
I want that truck to look a certain way.
613
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:47,560
I'm thinking about it.
614
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:51,120
I'm like, Oh, I really want that new Bronco that just came out.
615
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:52,120
Okay.
616
00:37:52,120 --> 00:38:00,720
So in the quantum field, if I hold that thought for 16 to 18 seconds, that's the key 16 to
617
00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:05,400
18 seconds, those wave particles start to wave around even more.
618
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,900
Their momentum speeds up.
619
00:38:07,900 --> 00:38:10,080
And so they start to vibrate.
620
00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:17,180
And then other wave particles that are in that same alignment will now join the momentum.
621
00:38:17,180 --> 00:38:21,120
Now some wave particles don't align to that new truck.
622
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:22,960
And they're not even in that frequency.
623
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:24,360
So they'll bounce off.
624
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,240
So now let's just say you've got a million wave particles vibrating so fastly together,
625
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:33,280
because you've been holding on to that thought for 16 to 18 seconds.
626
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,800
What happens is they wave so much that they recalibrate each other and they become a solid.
627
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,060
So wave particle now just became a solid.
628
00:38:42,060 --> 00:38:47,680
Now what happens when it creates a solid is you just now planted a seed in the quantum
629
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,200
field.
630
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:52,880
You just planted a seed in the all knowing of God.
631
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:56,440
Now what happens when you plant a seed in this world?
632
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,560
Say I'm planting a flower and I plant a seed.
633
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,640
What do you do?
634
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:00,640
You water it.
635
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,480
You make sure it has sunlight, right?
636
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:04,480
You nurture it.
637
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,040
Good soil, nurture it.
638
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,040
Yep.
639
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:08,040
Right.
640
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,800
So the way that you water and plant and nurture a seed in the quantum field is you do it
641
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:12,800
again tomorrow.
642
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:13,800
16, 18 seconds.
643
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:16,640
You ponder about it.
644
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,020
You get even more description.
645
00:39:19,020 --> 00:39:25,560
Now the way to speed up that planting of the seed is you can amplify it with prayer with
646
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:30,400
God, your heavenly family, your spirit guides, because they're of supernatural power.
647
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:32,600
They're an amplification to this.
648
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:33,600
Okay.
649
00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:34,600
So they can speed up the process.
650
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,120
It's kind of like giving it even more sunlight with no storms.
651
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,120
Okay.
652
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:43,320
So now the seed starts to sprout, starting to grow.
653
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,300
And when it sprouts, this is string theory.
654
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:52,720
So it sprouts from the seed, the solid goes wave particles solid seed gets planted.
655
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:53,720
Now it's frowning.
656
00:39:53,720 --> 00:39:58,480
It's frowning from the quantum field into the physical dimension.
657
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,640
When it gets into the physical dimension, that's when you see it.
658
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:06,480
So people are getting really caught up in like the word manifesting, but they don't
659
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,900
know how manifesting actually works.
660
00:40:09,900 --> 00:40:12,120
And this is the science behind that.
661
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:16,520
Now that is how you can manifest things in the quantum field.
662
00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,360
This is just quantum physics.
663
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,720
They can see this underneath a microscope so that you can understand.
664
00:40:21,720 --> 00:40:23,380
But this is the basic way.
665
00:40:23,380 --> 00:40:27,680
It's the same thing with the scriptures talking about matter unorganized when this world,
666
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,560
this earth was being created.
667
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:30,560
Okay.
668
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,800
It all started with the thoughts.
669
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,120
Then it went to spiritual energetic.
670
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,320
In the words verbally, then it went to the physical.
671
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:43,820
That was the process from quantum field to the physical manifestation of it.
672
00:40:43,820 --> 00:40:48,000
Another way of, I want to talk about quantum entanglement.
673
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:55,400
If Robin sits next to Sally for more than 20 minutes, our energetic fields are going
674
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,520
to do the exact same thing those wave particles did.
675
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:03,080
We're going to start to vibrate because she's a little bit different than me.
676
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,980
So it's recalibrating my energetic field and I'm recalibrating hers.
677
00:41:07,980 --> 00:41:10,720
This is why you become who you hang out with.
678
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:14,680
This is why if your friends are broke, you're broke.
679
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:16,880
You're not that much above them.
680
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,920
If you want to be a millionaire, you hang out with millionaires.
681
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,440
You hear stuff like that all the time, but they don't know why.
682
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:22,440
Okay.
683
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:23,800
They think it's mindset, but it's not.
684
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,160
It's quantum entanglement.
685
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:32,680
So if I sit next to Sally for 20 minutes, my vibration starts to vibrate so much and
686
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:37,140
hers does too, that we start to spin around each other in the quantum field.
687
00:41:37,140 --> 00:41:40,720
And then we recalibrate each other.
688
00:41:40,720 --> 00:41:43,080
So once it's recalibrated, we stop spinning.
689
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,640
She got a part of me and I got a part of her.
690
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:50,560
This is also why all things are connected because we're constantly recalibrating each
691
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:51,560
other.
692
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:57,680
Anytime we get introduced to a new quantum or an energetic field or spirit or anything,
693
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,640
it's going to recalibrate us and we're going to recalibrate it.
694
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,800
It becomes a part of me.
695
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:03,200
I become a part of it.
696
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,800
That's quantum entanglement.
697
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,400
That's how women's menstrual cycles get aligned.
698
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:14,440
If anybody has a wife and daughters, especially if they have more than one daughter, it can
699
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:19,120
be real tough in the household during a menstrual cycle because they're all in the same cycle.
700
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,120
I have four daughters.
701
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:21,640
I remember those years.
702
00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:22,800
Yes.
703
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:26,960
And if you're a coach or something and you have a female team, you're like, oh my goodness,
704
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,020
how could this be?
705
00:42:28,020 --> 00:42:31,760
How could they all be on the same cycle at the same time?
706
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,560
Everybody's PMSing at the same time.
707
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:35,720
And it's because of this.
708
00:42:35,720 --> 00:42:39,000
It's a pheromone, but it's also a quantum entanglement.
709
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,080
That's why they're aligning to each other.
710
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,140
So let me ask this question.
711
00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:46,320
We're getting away from the cycles here, if you don't mind.
712
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:52,120
But the quantum entanglement, as I'm trying to understand it, the person next to us, that
713
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person and I are sort of recalibrating to each other.
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Now, what if I want to go to the state prison and spend some time with people that are incarcerated
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to help them to lift their spirits, whatever?
716
00:43:10,020 --> 00:43:12,960
Does that mean I'm also being drugged down to their level?
717
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,320
Well, let's not use the language drug down.
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Okay.
719
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Because that would be a judgment that you're placing that they're in a worse place than
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you.
721
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They really could be further along in this spiritual exaltation than you are.
722
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So but yes, to answer your question bluntly, you will be recalibrating them and they will
723
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be recalibrating you.
724
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That doesn't necessarily have to be a bad thing because everything is all connected.
725
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If we're all connected through energetic cells, and my brother who's in prison is one of our
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weakest links in the human race.
727
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Let's just look at it that way.
728
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Okay, if he's our weakest link, I can never rise to my full potential if he doesn't.
729
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:03,960
So if he if I can even raise him to levels, then I can go to levels.
730
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And I need to be able to recalibrate him to recalibrate me.
731
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And also on a mental level, I need to understand where they're at.
732
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How did they get here so that I can understand and have neutral energy, which is really Christ
733
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energy or God energy is that neutral energy, and how this happened, so I can relate.
734
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So that's a very beautiful thing.
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It doesn't mean that they have to pull you down and drain your energy.
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Now that does happen for people, because they don't know how to a process that they'll take
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on the burdens of others, and then they'll feel like garbage.
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They'll fall down.
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And then they'll avoid things like that.
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But I also want to mention going back to why so many NDEs have divorce is because they
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just got really high calibrated with a spiritual experience, God energy, higher dimensions.
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And then they come back down and then they're talking to their spouse and their spouse is
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recalibrating them.
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And they're like, No, I can't do this.
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I can't go back.
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And then they go on this journey of seeking somebody that will be alignment to them.
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So this whole thing of needing to recalibrate if we feel drug down being around the presence
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00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:25,640
of someone at this, how did you call it lower calibration?
749
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Let me just use an example.
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You tell me your thoughts on this that I read recently in the Bible.
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So Jesus is criticized for being around sinners.
752
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But he spends time with sinners.
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He spends time with people that are sick, healing them.
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And then if you notice, there's kind of a pattern after he did a bunch of this, he would
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then go by himself up into the mountains for a few days or a few hours anyway.
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Was he doing that to recalibrate himself back to the higher level that he's comfortable
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at?
758
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:05,720
Yeah, he was filling up his cup.
759
00:46:05,720 --> 00:46:06,720
Yeah.
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And so maybe that's a good example of what we should be doing.
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We shouldn't be avoiding.
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And when I use the prison example, I'm sorry if that was harmful to some people.
763
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But I just wanted an extreme example of let's say there's this horrible axe murderer and
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I want to try to do something good and go lift him up.
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But then afterwards, I may feel like I need to go spend some time lifting myself back
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up.
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Absolutely.
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Absolutely.
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And I want to give some examples of that.
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Okay.
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Yes.
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The way that we can do that is instead of trying to manipulate, there's a different
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forms of manipulation.
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There's good manipulation and bad manipulation.
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00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,760
Okay, I'll give an example of good manipulation.
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Let's say I'm a church member and somebody in my congregation is ill and sick.
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And they're like, hey, this person could really use some meals brought in.
778
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And I'm the first to jump on it.
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And I have this, let's just say a 30 40% subconscious belief.
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Well, I'm going to prepare this amazing meal, people are going to know how righteous I am.
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She's going to think I'm a great cook.
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And people like, oh, Robin brought in meals for her.
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So I'm getting an ego boost.
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That's a good form of manipulation.
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You don't have bad intentions, but you have a little bit of manipulation.
786
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Okay.
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Same thing if I go to a prison and I think that they're in a mind space where it's not
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very conducive to their potential.
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Okay.
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And I'm trying to manipulate them to, to think the way that I think that would be a form
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of manipulation because I want them to be better, do better, feel better.
792
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Okay.
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Now, the better way and then you go and you experience that and a the person in the would
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that brought the meals can now get sick.
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The one who goes to the prison might feel drawn or dragged down.
796
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Okay.
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00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:14,600
Now what you want to do is instead of that manipulation and taking it on the sickness,
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taking on the low vibration, the sadness, the defeat, because what's happening is you're
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weakening them energetically.
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You're saying, Hey, I know you're sick.
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I know you're not, you're not capable of providing for yourself.
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I'm going to do this for you.
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You go to a prison and you're saying, Hey, I know you're not capable.
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You have, you grew up in a horrible environment.
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You're not strong enough or wise enough.
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So I'm going to do this for you.
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00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:44,840
And I'm going to take upon some of this energy for you, which is a very lovely thing to do.
808
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,640
That's a very lovely characteristic, but it weakens them.
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So instead of taking on that energy, cause it also weakens you, what you want to do is
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call upon everything you would want for them.
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So for instance, if I was in that prison, I could see someone struggling mentally, physically,
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spiritually.
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What I'm going to do is call upon everything that I want them to have, everything I wish
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somebody would have done for me in that situation.
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I'm going to bless them with understanding, clarity, revelation, spiritual connection,
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health, beauty, compassion, growth, motivation, the diligence to push it through that they
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can overcome, that they can be everything that they ever were capable of being, that
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they can reach that.
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Do you see the difference from that versus me taking on their doom and gloom?
820
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,840
Yeah, absolutely.
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So that will recalibrate me and them.
822
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And you can do this in your mind.
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You can do this in your prayer.
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You can ask God to do this instead of taking on the woe is me.
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00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:52,680
Woe is me for them.
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I feel so bad for them.
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When you are feeling bad for someone, that is never a good thing because you're taking
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power away from what you really want them to have and what they're wanting to experience.
829
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Yeah, and that's not an easy distinction to make because we want to feel empathy.
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And empathy and feeling sorry for someone can go very hand in hand.
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And yes, I think we need to draw that line to keep everything moving upwards.
832
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Yes.
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00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:31,040
And so, if I had an NDE and I could no longer relate, or my husband could no longer relate
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to me, instead of being frustrated and being recalibrated in that, I would then call upon
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what I would want to happen.
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I want him to have his own spiritual experiences.
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And I'm talking about this, that his mind and his imagination will tap into what I'm
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00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:53,240
saying, that he can see it in his mind.
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I'll ask that he has his own revelation that will have profited dreams to get confirmation
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of the things that I'm saying.
841
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:06,320
So that is a very different conversation than just being defeated and giving up.
842
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,340
So I think what you're saying is to use numbers.
843
00:51:09,340 --> 00:51:16,120
If I were a number five and this other person were a number three, and we got together,
844
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,080
we don't have to both end up being a number four.
845
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:26,880
But I can be a five or even a six and raise that person to a four or five along with me.
846
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,360
Absolutely.
847
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:33,080
And when people use those, like they'll say, well, I'm empathic, I'm an empath, which is
848
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a spiritual gift, right?
849
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:37,680
I feel everybody's energy and I can't even go to the grocery store.
850
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:41,840
I can't watch the news because it just makes me feel horrible.
851
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:47,840
So what they're doing is allowing themselves to take it upon themselves and not stay high.
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00:51:47,840 --> 00:51:53,880
The way that happens is they're judging it instead of taking it on, seeing what can be
853
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,880
recalibrated.
854
00:51:55,880 --> 00:52:01,140
They're taking all those feelings, the information, and then they're judging it like this is bad.
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00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:02,140
This is sinful.
856
00:52:02,140 --> 00:52:03,140
This is dark.
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00:52:03,140 --> 00:52:04,140
This is evil.
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00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:05,340
This is wrong.
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00:52:05,340 --> 00:52:10,200
And when we start to place labels on things like that, we cannot recalibrate ourselves
860
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:13,120
and stay high.
861
00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:18,540
This is also why Christ hung out with all those people.
862
00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:22,320
Because he was never really preaching to them, if you notice, he wasn't trying to correct
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00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:23,320
them.
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00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,440
He was accepting them as they were.
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Now some people didn't want to be healed and he didn't heal them.
866
00:52:28,780 --> 00:52:31,640
Some people didn't want to be corrected, so he didn't correct them.
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Now if they asked them directly, if they came to him and said, you know, heal me, he offered
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it.
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That's that good manipulation, bad manipulation.
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And so he never manipulated.
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00:52:44,180 --> 00:52:45,860
And I love that about him.
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00:52:45,860 --> 00:52:51,200
And he wasn't looking at them with judgment, label, the way that I was just saying.
873
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,780
So that's why it wasn't affecting him so much.
874
00:52:54,780 --> 00:52:59,460
And so he would go and recalibrate when he needed to fill up his cup, but also get revelation
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00:52:59,460 --> 00:53:01,560
on what's next.
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00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,500
We are running out of time here, Robin.
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It has been such a pleasure.
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Could you put a brief bow on this whole thing and leave our listeners with some kind of
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a message that's going to uplift them today?
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00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,300
Absolutely.
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00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:22,460
One of the things that I wish that the world knew is that we are never alone.
882
00:53:22,460 --> 00:53:30,700
Very rarely are we even in one room alone in your own house, in your office, in a store.
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There are so many things that are above this world, beyond your knowledge, your capacity
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to understand, that are supernatural, that are divine in nature, there to assist you
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00:53:42,140 --> 00:53:43,780
at all times.
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00:53:43,780 --> 00:53:46,940
But they never overwhelm you or manipulate you.
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00:53:46,940 --> 00:53:48,800
They don't force help on you.
888
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,560
They do not force knowledge.
889
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,860
They don't even force love upon you.
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The right spirit is always waiting for the invitation because they're not manipulators.
891
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,520
And so all you have to do is invoke and ask, and they're right there to give it to you.
892
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:09,040
And they are in the same delegation with God.
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00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,720
God gives certain delegation powers to your loved ones that have passed, to supernatural
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00:54:13,720 --> 00:54:15,960
things like angels and messengers.
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00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,160
They're all on the same team.
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00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:25,460
And so all you have to do is inquire of this, experiment, ask more questions, seek it out.
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00:54:25,460 --> 00:54:31,320
There is nothing special about me or somebody who has an NDE or has an experience with Christ
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00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,200
or something supernatural.
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00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:38,480
It is entitled to everybody, but not everybody has the tools or their school set, or they
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00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:40,400
don't believe that they can or they're worthy.
901
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:44,080
But I'm telling you, everybody is capable of this.
902
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:48,920
Everybody is capable of spiritual gifts, to receive revelation, to have prophecy, to have
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00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:54,440
dreams and visions, especially if it's about them or their families.
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So experiment with this, seek more, have more verbal, out loud conversations with God or
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your spirit guides or angels, whatever it is that you believe in, just start there,
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00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:12,400
ask different questions, be a seeker, and you will have some profound experiences if
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00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:18,560
you just keep at it, especially if it's for 16 to 18 seconds, planting that seed, nurturing
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00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,680
it every single day.
909
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:25,960
And I promise you, you will have some spiritual experiences, especially if you've had an NDE
910
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,960
and you want confirmation, start inquiring of it, asking for more.
911
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,040
Rob, and thank you for your insights.
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I know I've learned something today.
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I'm sure we all have.
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Well, thank you.
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It's been such a pleasure.
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I think you aligning and sharing the stories have a ripple effect for many people, and
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I'm sure they are the utmost gratitude for you for doing so.
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If you have had a round trip death experience, we would love to hear about it.
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Send an email to eric at roundtripdeath.com.
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And lastly, if you have found this program uplifting, if it's given you just a little
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more hope in the future, share it with a friend, hit that follow button and take a few seconds
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to write us a review.
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Until next time, I wish you everything good that you're looking for in this life and
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