5 Year Old Rebecca's Ski Accident and NDE

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From the time that they pronounced me dead was a good 45 minutes.

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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.

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And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my

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physical body because I was somewhere else.

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The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't

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anything else to be felt.

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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.

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I'm back home again.

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Incredibly safe and felt at home.

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Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death.

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And we're excited to have our guest on today, Rebecca.

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How are you Rebecca?

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Well, I'm doing good.

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Thank you.

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Coming from Wisconsin, what's it like there right now?

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Ooh, today is beautiful.

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Just sunny, the breeze is blowing.

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And I sent the Kittos to the park because the slides aren't too hot.

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So it's one of those perfect spring days, summer days.

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Yeah, it's by the way, early summer when we're recording this for those that are wondering.

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I know it does get cold there in the winter, but we don't need to get into that.

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I'm going to just let everybody know this is going to be fun today.

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We're going to talk about an experience that Rebecca had when she was five years old and

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then another one quite a few years later, later in life.

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Maybe we can figure out how to tie those things together just a little bit.

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But in the meantime, we want to get to know you for a second.

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Tell us a little bit about Rebecca.

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Sure.

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I'm a go by mom.

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So I have a tribe of Kittos that are a lot of them are home schooled.

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Some do go to public school.

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So that's the first job.

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I've made a career out of photography and building a life around kids and family.

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And I have found solitude in music.

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So I kind of live an artisan's life.

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What kind of music do you play?

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All the above.

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No, it's rock and roll.

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I played shadow specifically.

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So we like to say we play music from across the genre from Bob Dylan to Pink Floyd to some

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personal ones that we've created just about anything.

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I'm trying to picture cello in Pink Floyd music.

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I'm going to have to hear some sometime.

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I will be sure to send you a link.

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Okay.

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I'm looking forward to it.

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Well, let's go way back in time.

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Tell us what was going on when you were five years old.

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I know it was a ski day, but give us a paint a picture of what's going on this day.

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Yes.

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Well, it was 1986 was the year and I was five years old.

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It was a family hobby of ours that we hit the ski hill on the weekends.

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So I was raised on skis.

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So by five, I was on my own and I navigate just about any run on that at our local resort

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where we skied.

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My dad was an instructor, so he would send me along to go ski with my friends and I'd

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go and he'd teach and we'd meet up at the end of his shift.

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So he was just finishing up.

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He said, take one more run.

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And I was with a girlfriend of mine and we had created our own ski hill.

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And when I say our own ski hill, it was through the woods and it was a little cat track that

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we had to go through the powder to just make our own trail.

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It was very exciting.

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And so much so that we even took skittles, the little candies, and we put them down the

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trail so that we could remember our tracks because it was such a fun little through the

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woods.

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So when we got the last call, I was really excited to go do that last hill again.

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Little did we know that the last hill would be the last run for a very long time.

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We had gotten started and I was following the rainbow trail down the hill and I lost control

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on my skis and hugged a tree, smack dab in the center.

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I hit the ground.

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I was not lifeless, but I had knocked myself out pretty hard.

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There was a lot of blood.

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Thankfully, my friend that I was skiing with was able to get help.

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By the way, let me just interject.

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Back then we didn't wear helmets skiing like everybody does now.

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Yes, there was no helmets.

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In fact, I had a little bunny hat.

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It was a white hat with these little rabbit ears.

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That was my hat that I was wearing while skiing through my bunny trail, following the rainbow.

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So you wrapped yourself around a tree, smacked your head.

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Time goes for help.

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Are you conscious?

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Well, at that point, I think I was started the in and out of consciousness.

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I know my head hurt really, really bad.

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I could hear the screams for help.

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I was somewhat coherent when the rescue team arrived to put me on the board or on the backboard

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to take me down the hill.

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Once I got loaded and they were bringing me down the hill, it was such a rocky ride on

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my head that I astro projected out of my body at that point.

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I went up to the treetops and sat and watched the rescue team take my body in a toboggan

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down the hill.

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While I was in the trees, I can say there was an angelic being or somebody near me.

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So I was never really alone sitting in the trees.

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I was not afraid by any means.

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It was just more of watching the scenes unfold in front of you.

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I think that's interesting.

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I hear that a lot that when people have had some kind of accident, they're out of their

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body looking down with very little emotion.

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Not like, oh, panic.

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I need to get back in my body or even the opposite.

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Not feeling like, yay, I'm out of pain.

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It just kind of, matter of fact.

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And it sounds like that's how you were.

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Well, yes.

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And so much so that I do remember trying to go back down into my body.

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And I remember feeling every bump of that hill and just my head hurt so bad that I popped

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right back out.

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I didn't want to be there.

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It hurts.

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And so I was pain free when I was watching.

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They did get me down to the bottom.

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They did a further analysis and said, hey, you need more, need to be checked out by,

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you know, better doctors.

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So my dad was able to drive me to the emergency room.

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And it was upon my arrival that they got me hooked up to CAT scans and all that, I must

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say the New Age technology back in 1986.

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But one of the prereqs that they had to do to see my head was to get me a CAT scan.

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And so when they gave me the IVP die, the contrast, that sent me into an anaphylactic

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shock and it killed me there on the spot.

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So you were allergic to the die?

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I was allergic to the die and nobody really knew.

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Nobody knew.

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We didn't know.

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Well, sure.

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Yeah, it's your first time for it.

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So at that point in the hospital, I remember I completely disappeared.

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I was sent up and I'm going to say up because there was nothing scary.

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It was all positive and light and very, very happy.

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But I had been ejected up and sat under a really big tree.

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And when I said big tree, I envisioned this big willow tree and it was very ethereal and

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just big and the trunk was bigger than what I could get my arms around.

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So it's just a neat spot to sit.

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And I was not alone.

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My five year old mind tells me that it was Jesus that sat next to me.

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I'd say my adult mind now would say it's God, our God, universe, spirit or somebody of that

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higher source.

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But I was never alone.

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There was no talking under the tree.

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Although there was talking, it was done via telepathy.

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So there was a lot exchanged in that regards, but nothing that was done verbally.

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I don't remember speaking at all.

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So I sat with what I'm going to say, Jesus, to keep it simple.

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I sat with him and surrounding us, there was probably a dozen or so other angels around

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us in a circle.

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I couldn't really see faces or anything other than that.

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They were just white angelic.

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I could see wings and they were very glowy.

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I didn't see anything outside of a tree and the beans and it was just like mountainous

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field, beautiful.

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It was almost as if we were inside a bubble looking out so that holographic, you know,

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or kaleidoscope style iridescent.

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It was beautiful.

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You remember any more details?

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You said it was really beautiful and stuff, but I can say beautiful.

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I'm going to say earthly.

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To me, the thing that stuck out or sticks out is the big tree.

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I have an obsession with trees now.

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And very much the tree was just a willow light, very flowy as far as feeling.

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I can say it was ecstasy and I can speak freely because I have used ecstasy to try to reach

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the state.

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That's a later download, but it is that all-encompassing, warm, fuzzy hug.

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There was nothing scary about it.

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You mentioned communication with Jesus.

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Do you remember anything that was communicated back and forth?

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Well, this one's harder to explain in that the communication was I saw the beginning

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of time and I saw an end of time.

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And end of time meaning like a big bang and it all imploded in on itself.

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And then I was sent back here to Earth.

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So that's kind of how I was sent back.

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The beginning of the time started with a big bright bang, right?

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And then I got to see an omnipresence, if that makes sense.

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I saw everything and anything all at once.

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That's really hard to describe.

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And coming from a five-year-old mind, it's taken me 37 years to try to come to this

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conclusion going, whoa, something did happen there.

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You come back with an understanding.

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So tell me what happened to you physically after that.

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Did you come back into your body?

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Were they reviving you?

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Tell me a little bit about what you know about that.

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Yeah.

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So coming back, like I said, that beginning of time, end of time, and then getting sent

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back into body was like coming backwards through that tunnel.

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So instead of going to the light in a tunnel, I was sent backwards to a tunnel.

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I woke up to the hospital bright light and a bunch of heads over me saying, she's here.

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At that point, I grabbed my ears and I screamed my earrings because they had taken them out

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to do the CAT scans and I had recently gotten a pierce.

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That was a big deal.

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Yeah, to a five-year-old girl, yeah.

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To a five-year-old, that was a big deal.

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And so at that point, my mom says, yep, she's back.

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Now back to the guest.

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So yes, the return was that and I guess that was that.

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We were thankful that I was back and I grew up a normal life.

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You know, I'm gonna say normal.

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We didn't talk much about the accident or things that happened or what is the fallout

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of trauma, putting yourself back together after an experience like that is quite unreal.

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Excuse me.

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Did you have a long recovery?

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You know, the recovery was not bad actually.

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I remember being in the hospital for a few weeks just to monitor and it was beautiful

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there.

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I was a kid and then released after that.

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I mean, it was it.

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We didn't talk about it.

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It was done.

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We didn't talk about the dreams, the PTSD of the dreams that I had.

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You know, there's a fallout after going through something that large and being five and trying

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to understand it.

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Well adults have a hard time processing.

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I can't imagine how much harder for a five-year-old.

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Right.

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Were you able to talk to anybody about what happened to you?

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You know, no, not really.

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I have journals and lots and lots of journals.

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So I did a lot of journaling to just get through it.

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I can say I found solace in music.

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My mom started me on music at a very young age and I am thankful for that because that

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would probably be my saving grace.

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That's beautiful.

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As a five-year-old, you're now changed.

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You're different than other five-year-olds.

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You've had an experience none of them have.

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But I'm not talking about the tree.

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I'm talking about this experience with Jesus and wherever you were and whatever was happening.

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Did you look at life differently than your friends as you were growing up?

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Oh boy, yes.

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I would say now reflecting back, I grew up as a square peg trying to fit into a round

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tall.

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I got into a lot of trouble and not intentionally.

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It was just unintentional trouble or trouble from me all the time.

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It's still done.

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But I'm able to, I feel like now it's like I embrace it because that's my lesson and

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that's how we learn.

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Was some of that from the PTSD that you mentioned or just because you looked at life differently

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than other people?

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That's a good question.

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I don't have that answer.

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I'd like to say it's just because I see life from two different perspectives.

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I guess now as I'm coming more into a better understanding, I'm in a really good place.

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I can confidently say I grew up with what I call kaleidoscope eyes and that I can see

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auras around people and I can see energy signatures around things.

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So it can be quite, I'm gonna say intoxicating to go into public.

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It's a lot to process when you're taking life in through two different perspectives, not

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only visually, but that sensory, our skin, I can take in perceptions through just this

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outer awareness that I have.

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In what ways is that difficult?

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It can be very draining.

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The more I'm aware of my own powers and handling my own body before I did not understand that

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aspect.

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And so it was very easy to get, I'm gonna say just consumed with whatever surrounding

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you're in.

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So if you're in with a group of friends that aren't so good, you're probably gonna do bad

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things.

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Have there been times when you've needed some extra sort of, oh, some extra perception as

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far as who do I trust?

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Who do I not trust?

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Is this a good person that I can trust and be with?

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Have you had any insights that have helped you with that?

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No, because I got to a pretty bad period in my life that I shut down from everything

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and everybody and just became this recluse.

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And I think it was in that timeframe that I was able to cultivate more of who I am.

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And the more I questioned that and the more I tested my, what I call my abilities, right?

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Ooh, I think I can do that.

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Oh, yes, I can.

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Oh, yes, I can.

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The more comfortable I became with just being able to go out, you know, more outside of

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my house.

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And as far as trusting people, you know, I still don't, but I feel I want to trust everybody

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until you prove me wrong.

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You know, you have to do something pretty bad to make me not like you because I like

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everybody.

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Yeah.

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And then I'm guessing once that label hits, you're stuck with it.

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Right?

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Because if you trust people and then they do something to fill up that trust, yeah, it's

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hard for them to get it back.

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Oh, yes.

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Oh, yes.

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My kids are learning that one too.

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You know, mom can be pushed pretty far one way, but it can come back and go the other

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way real quickly.

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You mentioned, if you don't mind me bringing it up, you brought it up first.

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You mentioned ecstasy.

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Did you, was there a time that you got into drugs trying to replicate what you felt here?

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Absolutely.

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And again, this is just going back and reflecting, trying to retrain and make sense out of my

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chaotic life and what is going on and what the heck happened.

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You know, I also came to this big, what happened to me?

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And so it was in my, well, zero to 18, my mom would say I was under her house and her rules,

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right?

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And so that it was pretty, a pretty well oiled machine on what the expectations were from

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zero to 18.

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I went to college and that's when I realized, oh, there's no rules.

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Let them, nobody did tell me no.

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And so I kind of went down a few experimental rabbit holes.

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There was some drinking until I discovered the drug scene and became what we call the

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a hippie chick or a raver chick.

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I was with the crowd that would break into warehouses and we'd set up our DJ stuff and

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we would take a few ecstasy tabs or mushrooms or LSD or anything we could get our hands

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on at that point and dance and dance and dance until the sun came up or the cop shut us down.

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Did it ever help?

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Did you ever get that feeling back again?

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No.

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Well, yes and no.

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And I don't want everybody running out and saying, hey, this is what we need to do to

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die.

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But we're not advocating drug use for this stuff.

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I'm not advocating that by any means.

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I can say there were a few times that I had those deja vu moments where I went, oh, this

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is the same as this.

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Oh, you know, this is a sense of familiarity.

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I'm familiar with that.

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And so that became very comfortable for me.

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I partied hard for a solid two years like that.

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I'd say those would be the dark days.

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And then I ended up getting pregnant with my son.

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And so it was the day I found out that I was pregnant.

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My life, like a light switch I turned and I became this, you know, I'm responsible for

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someone else now.

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And so everything quit and I cleaned myself up and, you know, it's been all about my kids

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ever since.

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That's not easy to do.

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Good job.

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All right, let's fast forward.

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Okay.

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Let's talk about your other experience.

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When was this and what brought it up?

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And as far as well.

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Okay.

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So the other and I'm the other experience would be more post divorce.

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And I'd probably classify it more as spiritual awakening.

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I just had a very profound moment in which I felt God.

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I felt God.

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I was teleported to what I would call the pyramids.

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I was in my bathroom.

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All of this happened.

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I was in my bathroom.

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I had a meltdown and just life was real hard.

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I was raising four kids.

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I had just finished a real nasty divorce and I was a single parent.

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That's rough.

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And then when I say nasty divorce, we had restraining order and a seven year custody

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battle for the kids.

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So it was a very long road.

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I had reached kind of the end of that road and I remember going into what I call full

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surrender and just kind of gave it up and said, that's it.

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I had my meltdown.

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And that's when I was, like I said, tele-transupported to, I saw the pyramids.

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My hands are up like this because I was blocking the sun.

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It was bright.

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And I just felt that wash of just again, that ecstasy feeling from head to toe, the

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toe to head to everywhere.

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And then I just fell down and just prayed because it was very, very real.

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When I was in my bathroom, I think the year would have been 2016, 2017, somewhere in

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there.

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And it was after that point that I kind of, I really kicked it into high gear and started

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learning energy and became a Reiki master over the period of the next year and a half,

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two years.

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And it's just kind of carrying forward now, MSA snowballing now into some really, really

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cool things.

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That's great.

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Did you test out any religions in that process?

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I am a connoisseur of any and all religions.

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I like to keep an open mind.

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I don't necessarily practice, continue, you know what I mean, a daily practice I don't

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really have because I'm too much of a, I like variety of everything.

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It just depends on how I'm feeling now.

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So I'm feeling now.

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But I got myself the book, the Manly P. Hall, the religions of the ages.

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That textbook is like this big.

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And I just, I devoured that.

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I spent probably two, three months reading that from front end to cover end.

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And then I was able to dive into what really grabbed at me from there and just explore.

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You said that during this time, you felt God explain what that feels like.

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And then you, or I go back to that, that ecstasy feeling, a warm, it's like putting on a warm,

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fuzzy sweater, or it's an all-encompassing hug.

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It's an explosion of love.

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If you're into, you know, the brain analogy, it's your dopamine dose.

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You just got that explosion, the dopamine in your head, a profound, something profound,

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hypersensory feeling.

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Do you think that's the same thing that you felt when you were five years old?

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No.

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They were very different experiences.

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What did it feel like when you were five?

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Trauma.

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It was painful.

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It was painful.

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That's why I ejected out of my body from, you know, that first start off of it.

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And the recovery of it was painful.

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But you also said there were these really good feelings that you wanted to replicate

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later.

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So tell us about those.

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Yeah, so the chasing of, you know, feeling that ultimate high in the form of drugs, and

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no, you cannot really recreate it.

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Came close, but it is not on that seeing level.

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Yeah, I also wanted to ask about these angels that you said you saw.

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I'm going back to your five-year-old experience again now.

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Do you have any idea of who they were, what they were, or just, they were just comforting

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beings that were there?

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I think they were there to comfort me so that being alone with a man, I mean, that's a stranger

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danger in my opinion.

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And we were raised like in that regards.

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So I think they were just there to help comfort.

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And they didn't speak.

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They didn't make any sounds.

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There was no movement.

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They were just there as a presence.

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And helped you not be afraid?

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I'd like to think that that was part of that comforting feeling, or maybe they were helping

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to bolster me up with that piece.

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So what have you learned from all of this that you can share that might help somebody

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else today?

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How do you sum that up?

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That's your job.

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I get to just ask.

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I have the easy part.

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It's very short.

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You know, if you blink, you miss it.

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It goes real quick.

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I guess we all have gifts.

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Okay, every one of us have this gift that's within us.

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So it's never too late to deep dive into your heart and ask those questions.

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I can say the universe, God, universe, spirit, does, wants us to know him.

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And he wants to work with us.

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You know, first hand, he wants to, he's always listening.

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And he's always there.

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He never turns off.

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So what does that mean?

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How does that make someone's life better?

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To know you're never alone.

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I think there's comfort because sometimes you really feel isolated and alone.

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And I know that because I've intentionally gone through isolation of myself to knowing,

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you know, that there's, you're never alone.

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Most people that have a near death experience when they're an adult, they come back having

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zero fear of death in the future.

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You know, they're not out committing suicide, but they're like, Hey, when it's my time,

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I am so ready to go because I know what it's like.

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It's wonderful.

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Were you left with something like that?

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How do you feel on that?

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I think maybe that's why I have my, I'm missing my problem side is that I'm fearless.

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I don't fear death and I really don't fear a lot of things.

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Like most people will get in their head and question things.

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I don't question.

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It's like that, that critical thinking has turned off for me.

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That died when my, when my brain went off.

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I'm more in that responsive, you know, and that's part of that post injury learning to

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turn on to that critical thinking.

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Cause most people do do that.

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Is there anything else that you want to share before we go?

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You know, embrace every single moment that comes into your visual site because it was

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put there for a reason.

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There is no coincidence in anything that does happen.

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And that's a whole nother topic, you know, synchronicity and frequencies and vibrations

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and all of that has meanings in, in the world.

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Last question.

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Did you ever go skiing again?

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Absolutely.

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Every weekend and all my kids are skiers and yes, I face my fear.

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We do wear helmets and it's mandatory.

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My kids wear helmets.

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I actually think I might go into this winter.

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I'd like to get trained to be a paramedic and on the snow paramedic ski patrol.

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Hey, thank you.

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I can't, there you go.

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I was on the tip of my tongue, but yes, that's what, what I would like to do.

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I've reached that point.

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It's time.

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Well, we need to get you and your family out here to Utah for some real skiing.

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Oh, please.

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Yes.

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A huge fan of the mountains.

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Thank you.

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Rebecca, thanks so much for being with me today.

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Appreciate it.

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Absolutely.

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Thank you for having me.

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Thank you so much for listening and supporting the show.

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Just a reminder, click on over to roundtripdeath.com to make a donation and we'll put a link in

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the show notes.

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Until then, I wish you every good thing that you're looking for in this life and the next.