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From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes.
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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.
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And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my
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physical body because I was somewhere else.
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The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't
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anything else to be felt.
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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.
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On back home again.
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Incredibly safe and felt at home.
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Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.
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And please welcome our special guest today, who I'm going to try so hard to pronounce
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her name right, Dr. Efrat Shoketh.
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Perfect.
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Thank you.
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A nod is not good enough.
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I need the little pad on the back.
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And Efrat, you are in Israel right now, which is amazing.
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You're our first guest to be on From Israel.
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So welcome.
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And before we jump into it, and just to promise, people are going to love this today.
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We're talking about something a little bit new.
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But first, tell us about you.
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First, gratitude and thank you for having me.
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I'm curious and looking forward to this conversation.
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My name is Efrat, and I am indeed from Israel.
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I'm a mother of three teens, teen daughters, all of them girls, amazing teachers that I
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received for this lifetime.
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We'll be talking about my books.
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So in my book, I refer to when there were babies.
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I have four dogs.
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I love my dogs so much that whatever they want me to do, I will do for them.
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Give them candy and more vlogs.
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What kind are they?
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All kinds of mixes.
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Two big ones, two little ones.
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And I am working with children following my New Day's experience, which we'll be talking
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about.
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I learned how to work with the spiritual tools and ways and dimensions.
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It came my way.
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Learned how to work with shamanic practices.
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And today, I mostly work with children, teens, parents, using shamanic tools worldwide.
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Did you say your girls are teenagers?
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Yes.
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How old?
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17.
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And my twins are 15, almost 15.
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Tell me if our family was typical.
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When those teenage girls hit 16, 17, all of a sudden they butted heads with their mother
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a lot.
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Luckily my relationship was still good with them.
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Are you experiencing any of that or are you a perfect parent so it's not happening?
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I'm not a perfect parent.
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None of us are perfect.
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We're always growing and learning.
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I find that it's mostly about what I don't know.
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But I am blessed, blessed, blessed and I'm grateful from morning to evening and from evening
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to morning that my relationship with my daughters is very warm, loving, respectful.
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We have very, very good communication.
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So far we hardly clash, but if it happens, it happens.
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And if that's what they'll need on their journey, I'll be there for that as well.
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I think we're all very appreciative of the fact that I'm here alive and their mom and
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they are very much aware of it as well.
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And also we do spiritual work.
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We do shamanic journey.
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We meditate.
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They have the spiritual tools as well.
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We release the energy and the density that naturally creates between family members just
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about who took the garbage out or those stuff like that.
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So we add in the energetics and we clear those pieces.
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And I think that helps us a lot in our way of life and we choose love.
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We choose to wake up in love and to finish our days with love.
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So far as of today, we're good.
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That is beautiful.
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We're going to be getting into your near-death experience and also talking about how it relates
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to parenting.
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And you ended up writing a book about it, which I'm just going to give you this shameless
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plug right now.
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It's called The Promise We Made Three Universal Soul Promises We Made To Our Children.
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And my copy didn't show up till yesterday, so I haven't had time to read it yet.
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So I'm really looking forward to this.
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Let's start from the beginning.
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What led to your near-death experience?
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I know you were in a car accident.
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Give us a little bit of background.
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Where were you?
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What was going on with your life then?
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So a bit of the background before the car crash, I finished my postdoctoral studies in organizational
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social psychology, working in multicultural teams.
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My toddler, my older daughter was a toddler.
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She was a little over three years old and my twins were 13 months old.
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I was mostly home with them.
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And I was just teaching in an academic university, just one horse a week.
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And I was mostly home.
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It was a choice.
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And I had a fairly regular routine.
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Raising twins wasn't easy to start with.
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And I think just before they turned one and we felt like me and my husband, we felt that,
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okay, we're starting, we got it.
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We got it.
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We figured it out and these are smooth and we know how to handle things.
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That week of the car crash, the car crash happened on a Thursday.
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And on that Sunday, I had, as part of our community, we used to gather the moms and the
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babies.
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And I invited the group over to our little apartment then to celebrate a year of the surviving,
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being a mom, two, three, and the twins.
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And it was a kind of celebration for their first birthday.
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And we opened a circle and each mom was invited to share what motherhood means to her.
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How did I know where that's going to lead me with this book and this whole journey that
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I found myself walking?
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And that was it.
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That was invitation and each mom shared.
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And my twins were coming and nursing and going back to their friends within the circle.
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And I was last as a host.
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And I couldn't say a word.
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And I had all speech prepared.
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I couldn't say anything.
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And what I said was, I whispered, I want to be their mom.
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I said it once.
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I choked.
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I didn't know anything.
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I think it's go with moms and babies.
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Soon it was loud and the circle started spreading around.
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And one friend was sitting next to me, a dear, dear friend, a wise woman, looked at me and
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said, Frat, are you okay?
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What did you just say?
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I was like, but babies, I was hosting.
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I put it aside.
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Five days later, the car crash happened.
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And I was invited to choose and ask and pray that I would indeed be their mom.
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So that's a bit of what happened before, like the background of our lives.
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That morning, it was a morning I was teaching.
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My mom came to watch the twins.
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I nursed them, the twins together.
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I hold that beautiful memory within me.
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And I took my father on the way to the daycare.
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And she had a few hours a day.
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I had time.
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I talked to his friends.
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We enjoyed the rain on the way.
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It was a really beautiful, beautiful Israeli winter, which is fairly warm.
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A bit of rain.
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That took cold.
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My next memory is as I set to drive to my class, we live in small villages.
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So the daycare was also in a small village near Brian.
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And remember, it took me a long time to turn left into the main road.
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A few seconds later, I remember a sense of a boom.
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I did not see the other car coming.
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The other car slipped to the right and fixed the slip to the right, to the left, and bumped
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into me.
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And we're actually really good friends now, the other driver, the other woman from the
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story and myself.
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An amazing woman.
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I'm very grateful to her, but that's a different story.
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And I was out of my body.
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I don't remember a tunnel, like many share.
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I was immediately in this most beautiful space, luminous, loving.
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I have, it's anchored in my body, the feeling of stillness, deep, deep, deep, deep stillness.
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And within that stillness, the faraway sound of, it's like bells, but it's not bells.
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Really, really, really soft, nourishing music.
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And it wasn't something I was hearing or something I was hearing in my heart.
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Have you heard anything like it here?
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Did you describe it?
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Oh, it was like this piece of music or anything like that.
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So what if my daughter plays the harp?
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And sometimes when she, she's just making it up, kind of going into a meditative, high-frequency
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space of around and she plays and just something comes out.
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That's a bit, that's the closest.
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It's not the same, but that's the closest.
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That could wake up those memories within me.
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I've never heard anything like that here on Earth.
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And it's like, it's, it's, it's music that came in complete silence, but there was music.
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I have experienced this music again when I, as part of shamanic journey, when I traveled
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into the cosmos and visited various planets and dimensions.
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And then I have had that experience of that same music again, but not here on Earth.
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What are you seeing?
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You said it was beautiful.
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What was beautiful as you look around and I can see you're going back to it in your mind's
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eye here and that's great.
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And I'll read a little bit.
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How many years ago was this, by the way?
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And what was it?
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12 or something?
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13 years ago.
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13 years ago.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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The light was very bright, brightness that would dazzle us here.
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We wouldn't be able to look into that brightness, but it was beautifully bright.
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Very, very, very light colors, kind of clouds, feathery clouds.
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I don't remember so much looking as I was feeling what was going on.
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And then I started floating.
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I noticed I was floating forward like this very, very, very clear and that I was not
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floating alone, that there were other beings floating in the same directions, not very
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close to me, but before me and after me.
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I did not pay any attention to how I looked, but they kind of looked, I guess, in human,
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in a way.
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And we were floating forwards and in that space.
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And all along I was feeling that it's like the melting of my physical, the melting of
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myself, the melting of judgments, the melting of beliefs, of who I am.
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It was breathing love.
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It was being in clouds of love.
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It was feeling I am love.
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And it's not, I can't say that it happened at once, but it all happened at once because
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it was out of time.
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I felt I was love.
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I felt I was accepted in ways I've never felt accepted before.
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I felt perfect as I am.
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And I was, I wasn't thinking about my broken body.
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I wasn't aware that there was an accident.
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I wasn't thinking of my daughters or my family or my earthly life.
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I was just in that very much here now of that luminous space.
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As we were floating forward and I was melting into this amazing, amazing stillness and beauty
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and love, I noticed others floating towards us.
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And those beings that were floating towards us, some of them came alone, some of them came
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in small groups, never more than three, four, five, and they met those other beings that
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were floating forward with me.
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And these were, I realized that these were people who have transferred and have left
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their physical body only much later as I was integrating my new experience.
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But at that time, it was just a beautiful scene, seeing, being floating forward and
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being accepted and loved and embraced by loved ones.
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Sorry, when you say loved ones, did you recognize anybody?
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I met someone that I, I'm still not never sure if it was my grandpa or my high guidance
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at a later point in my near-death experience.
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And I'm saying loved ones and referring to loved ones that others met and it was clear
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that they were loved ones because of the interaction.
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It was such happy meetings of people embracing those who came, people beings, souls, including
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guidance.
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They had all kinds of features.
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Some of them were tall, luminous beings.
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There was one that looked like an orb of light and they were floating forward, but I couldn't
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float forward.
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There was like this unseen barrier that they were moving forward.
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They met each other.
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They were really, really happy.
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Wow, so beautiful.
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And they were floating forward.
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And I wasn't occupied with, oh, nobody's meeting me at that point.
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I was just, wow.
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It was amazing.
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And I was really, really touched by those meetings.
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And beings continued to flood from behind me and in front of me and just move forward.
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And I couldn't.
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I was shocked.
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In hindsight, do you think that was because you were just meant to be there temporarily?
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Yes, yes.
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I wasn't supposed to go through that barrier.
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I'm not sure.
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My understanding is that if I had gone forward, I wouldn't be able to come back.
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Okay, keep going.
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And then someone was floating towards me and it looked like my grandpa.
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And the communication was not in words to tell path.
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They could just communication of love.
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Not a lot of how you've been, what happened, not stuff like that.
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Just how amazing and wonderful and great it is to embrace and see one another.
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In hindsight, I also know that I've met this frequency more than once later on as part
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of my spiritual guides.
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And I understand that there is a chance.
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I never asked and I leave it in this ambiguity of both that my guide took the form of my
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grandfather so that I would be able to recognize someone and surrender to the interaction.
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There are no words.
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I'm sure you hear that for many other people who are experienced, near-death experienced,
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but there aren't really words to express the love that is communicated, the acceptance,
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the tranquility, the calmness.
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Everything melts.
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He embraced me and we talked.
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And it was a short conversation about how amazing to see you in energy.
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And then I was invited and he divided me and we floated to this shimmering white balcony.
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And I was shown a lot of aspects of Earth.
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And I'm not sure if it was Earth floating, if it was still and the Earth was floating
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below us, or if it was the balcony floating above stuff and places, happy moments, sad
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moments, the complexity of the human journey, the many sad choices and the confusion we
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humans walk with.
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It felt like days, I know it was probably, we estimate that it was about seven minutes
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or maybe a little more.
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It was a few minutes in earthly time that I was not in my body, but I felt like days
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have passed.
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A lot of information.
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I was observing it, not even understanding what I'm seeing, just understanding I'm seeing
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the whole spectrum of possibilities and gaining an understanding of humanity and answers to
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all kinds of understandings about our journey.
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Stuff that I never asked before.
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I wasn't occupied with those questions.
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Like many do.
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Many are.
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Many people are asking questions and it's beautiful.
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I wasn't one of them.
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I wasn't asking questions.
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I was living my life.
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Shout had a good life, but with small discomfort that were inviting change because I was not
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on my path and that observation from that balcony opened up a lot.
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So you weren't having a conversation there with your guide.
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This was just information coming to you, right?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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I was shown.
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It was information coming to me.
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There were not too many explanations.
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Just notice this, notice that.
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Seize a difference.
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Like pointing what I need to see, that type of information.
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Yes.
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It wasn't about communication or download, like a mental download that came in words.
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That came later.
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And then at some point he just said, you must go back now.
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That did.
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My time was up.
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And I had no chance of saying, oh wait, I want to stay here.
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And of course I wanted to stay.
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In many ways I wanted to stay, but I think I understood that as beautiful as this place
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is, I will return to it one day as we all do.
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And that was in my time.
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And I needed to go back.
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And I was pulled, floating really, really fast and boom, fell into my broken body.
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At that stage I was gone for about, let's say, an average of seven minutes.
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We don't really know somebody who didn't see the car crash happen, but stopped immediately.
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And I was waiting for the paramedics and everything.
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I was trying to talk to me.
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And he was trying to talk to me.
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And he was talking and talking and talking because that's what the paramedics told him.
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Later when we met him, he said that my eyes were rolling and I was not barely breathing
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and he was pretty sure I was not going to make it.
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And he kept asking me, and I remember, were there any babies in the car?
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Were there any babies in the car because he saw the bases of the click connect because
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I had two bases in the car, in the car seat for the toddler.
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And he was afraid that somebody flew out because the car was broken.
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And he wouldn't hear my voice.
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He wouldn't hear anything I was saying.
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But I felt like I was present and I was very, very, very confused.
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But it's some, and I don't know how that happened.
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But I had a moment of clarity.
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I managed to talk.
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I told him nobody was in the car with me.
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I gave him my home phone number and my husband's name and told him, call my husband.
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We leave nearby.
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He's going to show up in a few minutes, just to scold him.
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And I was gone again.
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And at that stage, I wasn't the luminous dimensions.
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I was just floating above my car, seeing how they put a fire at the front, me taken out
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of the car.
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I don't think I understood it was me.
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I wasn't even asking questions. I was just sitting in that very, very blurry, possibly
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escaping my really painful body.
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I was severely injured, multiple injuries.
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And a helicopter came to take me to the hospital because I had no chance of making it otherwise.
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And at that stage, I was already, when the helicopter came, my husband was already there.
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He managed to leave his car through the traffic jam crate.
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And he saw a friend that didn't know that it was me through his car keys and told him,
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take my car home.
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And he managed to convince the people on the helicopter, the paramedics, to let him join
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us and arrive at the hospital.
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The other woman from the story was also with us there.
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For the next few days, I went through operations.
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I barely remember anything.
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I was in an induced coma.
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I wasn't in my body.
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I went back to that.
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I have memories from that time of going back to the balcony, replaying that movie I experienced,
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replaying it again and again and again.
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And then slowly the Lord of the anesthesia and I came back and I had no idea what happened.
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I did not remember the car crash.
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I had a stoma open that was later closed.
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One of the things, the reflection I received that when they told me that I said, okay,
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but I'm alive, everything is okay.
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People are usually when they found out such news, they are really, really alarmed.
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I wasn't alarmed from anything.
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Something about my attitude around what happened was really surprising for many people around
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me.
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And all I knew was that something really profound happened, that there is a huge reason why I'm
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here and why I'm back, but I had no idea what happened.
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I couldn't put any word to it.
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Yeah, I think that's where the dramatic story ends.
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Okay.
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I want to ask about that calmness.
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Do you think that was because of where you had been and what had happened to you?
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You were so calm with everything?
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Definitely, definitely because in parallel to the earthly drama, I was a mother to three
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little ones, I nursed them in the morning, later today I was bleeding milk and blood.
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I had a knowing.
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It was a knowing that something had changed, something really profound happened.
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And it wasn't about a mental knowing.
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I think it was my energy, my heart.
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It took me a long time to give words and to be able to share my story and write about
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my story and it was just this, maybe a large bird perspective that what was happening was
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part of a bigger plan, a bigger understanding.
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And that now I need to go through those stages as the adult babies that I was.
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I often feel it's like when babies come, you know, they're huge souls, amazing beings
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coming from far away planets.
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And in order to be born and experiencing, or as you have to go through that, being cooked
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in the world and being small, exactly, and then being dependent and letting people take
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care of you, there's this process that allows you to get used to it and learn its rules.
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And I was kind of like that.
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I was learning the rules.
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I was learning to walk.
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I was later and I needed to learn how to walk again.
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I needed to learn how to eat again.
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There were so many functions.
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And I also needed to learn who I was because I wasn't the person who left.
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Who did you first tell about what experiences you had?
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Was it your husband?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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And how did he react?
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Did he immediately believe you or was he a little skeptical?
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It was all new to him.
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He's a very rational person, but he immediately believed me.
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He knew that I wouldn't be telling anything like that if it hadn't happened.
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Not everyone was like that.
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Some people really wanted to know.
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We were really intrigued once I started telling.
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And I was really looking for who can I talk to?
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Who can I share this story?
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And some of the people I was trying to share the story with didn't want to hear.
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It was too much for them.
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And some of the people that I shared the story immediately analyzed it and gave me interpretations
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and explained to me that it was actually my brain waves or that I imagined it.
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And maybe it was because of the painkillers I was receiving.
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It was hard for a lot of people to hear the story, but for me, it was stronger than anything.
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And I was resting hours of resting when in the hospital and then when I was home.
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And I was just drifting back to this safe place of light.
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That's amazing.
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And it is very common, by the way, for people when they're unconscious or in coma.
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I don't know that those are two different things, but to go back to this place or to
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have a very similar experience to when maybe a time that their heart is actually stopped.
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It's not that different.
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And so those experiences can happen both places.
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And for you, it sounds like they did.
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Maybe some of it was repeated maybe so it would sink even further inside for you and
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become even more real.
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Yes, exactly.
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Because I needed to integrate it.
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I think, and that's I think also true and you've heard many stories.
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So you maybe even have a greater perspective about this, that we have this luminous experience
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and it can be a new experience and it can be an out of body experience.
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It can be spiritual experience.
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And we come back and it's like, at least the environment expects us to be who we were and
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to be the same.
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But we're not.
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But we ourselves, we don't have that language yet.
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I needed to learn words.
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I didn't even know that the near death experience were so common and that it has a name.
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So I needed to learn all that vocabulary to myself.
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I needed to understand that it's okay for me to talk about it and that if somebody else
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doesn't want to hear about it, I can respect that.
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But it doesn't make my experience less real.
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I needed to learn what the invitation was because I needed to bring changes into my
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life.
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Everybody has changed when they come back and you mentioned that you were changed.
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Give us a little bit of an idea.
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Was it your personality quite a bit changed?
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In what ways were you different?
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I think in the perspective, the perspective of our things, it was a much wider perspective
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of understanding.
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My priorities, that was also very clear of what's more important and what's less important
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to me.
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Following my truths, and that took time because I needed to unweave and shed a lot of definitions
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and a lot of limiting beliefs I was walking with.
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And that's an ongoing process I still find that there is more to heal and there is more
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to cleanse so I could become just me, my essence in my human form for this lifetime.
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So that was also learning my truths.
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I think these are the main things that I felt at that time.
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Some people go through huge shifts.
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They change their career.
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They get rid of some relationships that are not bringing anything to them.
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Was that a thing for you or was it just more of an internal shift?
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No, it was all of it.
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It was an internal shift that brought a choice of who's staying in our lives and who's not.
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I had very little energy so that was also a choice.
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If I have a little energy, I want to, as soon as I started communicating and being able
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to be around my daughters, and that was a very clear priority or my very close family.
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And I would not invest that in old friends, but there were a few very good friends that
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I would.
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And naturally, some people also, we changed.
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My whole family changed and we were going through something and some people can stay
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around and some people can't.
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And that's okay.
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Some people returned to our lives and some people didn't.
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In terms of my career, I was not on an academic path because I didn't want to be only a new
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university professor.
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I was supposed to start a tenure track in a small college while going also into counseling
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and to multinational firms.
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That whole change, I couldn't do it.
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I tried to go back to teaching because I was encouraged to go back to teaching and the
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faculty were amazing.
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They said, just take one course.
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They were so good to me, but it was all the environment expecting me to return to who I
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was.
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I was lying along, but I couldn't teach.
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I didn't remember what was on the next slide.
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I was not ready to teach.
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I was not able to go back to that academic environment.
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So everything had to change.
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Your book talks about three universal sole promises we made to our children.
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Can you touch on those and tell me how you learned those?
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If you allow me, I'll take you as a step back.
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When I returned, one, I had that prayer of being my daughter's mom.
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And I wasn't participating in any of the caretaking.
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I was in the hospital for a long time and then I was home sometimes on the couch, but
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not.
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I wasn't the one approached to.
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I was like a picture on the wall anyway.
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And I was looking to what would make me their mom.
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00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:25,800
I was constantly asking, what makes me my own daughter's mother when I'm not participating
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in any of the doing.
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The doing defines us.
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00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:34,000
And I was looking for something beyond the doing that would define me.
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And those promises were part of the answer.
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00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:45,000
And another thread that was walking with me and I was obsessive about it, I knew I had
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to find, I knew it was possible to live with having a nurse.
509
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:53,120
I knew it was possible to feel feelings that are close to what I felt in my near-death
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experience in the here and now, in a physical presence.
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00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,440
And I was trying to understand, it wasn't a mental understanding, it was an energetic
512
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:10,720
understanding of how do I share my story, this really beautiful space I've been to
513
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:16,440
with my daughters, but not as mom says that mom had a near-death experience and she experienced
514
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,840
not, but as their experience.
515
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:24,400
And as I was healing and I was exploring and trying to find my own truths, I noticed when
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I'm aligned to my truths, my feeling of that joy, of wholeness, of the monocity, of being
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00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,600
the love that I am, awakens.
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00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:40,000
When I'm not aligned to that truth, somebody suggests something and I'm just keeping quiet
519
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:44,400
and keeping small because I'm not doing anything and I don't feel I have any right to say anything,
520
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I'm not aligned.
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I feel bad.
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And that was also aligned with my physical recovery.
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00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,120
I was aligned with my truths, I felt better physically.
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00:31:54,120 --> 00:32:00,640
I wasn't aligned with my truths, I was really weak and unable to participate in anything.
525
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:07,400
And as those understanding integrated, I realized that what makes me my daughters mom is that
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00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:16,240
I see and know and I'm the one they chose to create the conditions for them to feel,
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00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:23,760
to live their life in joy and in illness and to have those experiences of alignment, of
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00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:28,920
being the love that they are and we all are in the here and now in their lives.
529
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,560
And then I was asking, I was asking and at that point I was already writing and downloading
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00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:40,480
and being very, very much guided to ask what were the conditions.
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00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:46,200
And so we each have universal agreements, I think it's better to call them.
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00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:52,600
Why your children chose you, why your grandchildren chose your kids and their spouses as their
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00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:59,200
parents, what was the personality, what is their lifestyle, what are the things that
534
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:02,680
they're going to be able to teach them and what are the things that are going to be challenging
535
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,240
because we choose also what would challenge us to make a choice to be different.
536
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,360
I grew up in a very academic family.
537
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:15,280
I needed to make a choice to be a very un-rational spiritual, we still feed on the grand person.
538
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,880
So we choose all kinds of personal agreements, we create the conditions on a personal level
539
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:20,880
that do it.
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00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,960
I was asking what makes us all of us, what's the essence of motherhood, what does everyone,
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no matter where they are born, expect from their parents and what is shared.
542
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:35,680
And that's when the three very basic universal promises came.
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00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:45,840
Truce, attentiveness and emotion, truce, how do we allow the children to stay aligned to
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as they are, who they are in the beauty and the essence and the love that they are.
545
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:55,640
And you know when we see babies, where our heart opens, they press a button in us, they
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00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:03,600
remind us of love, they remind us of who we are because they're so, it's not about evolutionary
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cuteness of making sure we'll take care of them.
548
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,200
It's so much more than that.
549
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:15,840
It's reminding us who we are, that's like a gift of a journey and they know truth.
550
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:21,920
If somebody they don't like or somebody with a bad energy would pick them up, they wouldn't
551
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:26,720
express that they don't want to be picked up by that person.
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00:34:26,720 --> 00:34:30,760
That is so, so true.
553
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:33,880
I know she doesn't listen to this so I can say it.
554
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:38,680
When my mother-in-law picked up our first baby, it was it was ugly.
555
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:39,680
She screamed.
556
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:44,040
Just, I love where we're going with this.
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00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,240
So the first thing was truth.
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00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:49,240
What's next?
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So Truce's, I'll say something about Truce because from very early age, we teach them
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that they don't know what's best for them.
561
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,160
And it's not about not keeping discipline or making sure things are organized.
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It's just about respect, attentiveness.
563
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:10,000
We think it tells you to eat a banana so we push that banana and maybe that child doesn't
564
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,240
need to eat that banana or as we said, who picks them up?
565
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:14,920
Who's they stay with?
566
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:20,520
There's so many little elements, it's important to say that I've got through these mistakes
567
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:24,760
and I have no self judgment about it because if you have a toddler and you have twins,
568
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,680
sometimes you attend to one and the other one needs to wait, it's part of the earthly
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conditions.
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00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:36,320
But I do believe that we can do often much more than we do in order to respect and listen
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00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:43,120
to those little communications of their truth and as we, and we know so many adults that
572
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:48,560
are working so hard to find their truth and are growing through so much crisis in order
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to find their truth and to come back to who they are.
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00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:57,600
And I believe that if we allow our children and create the conditions for them to stay
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true to who they are, they would have so much less conflict and they would be able to come
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00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:11,560
and work out and work out whatever they came here to work out, but they won't have to have
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00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,000
a drama around it.
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00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,120
So that's truth.
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00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,280
And truth is a very subjective thing when you start with my say, if I start with myself
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00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:25,480
or we start with you or we start with every individual, but as we climb, and I think that's
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00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,960
part of what New Desk Experience offers us.
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We're all the same.
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00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:36,160
We're all love regardless of the skin, the religion, the gender, our life choices, our
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life circumstances, we're all the same.
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00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:45,000
And as we raise our frequency and walk our truth, we find that our choices meet and align
586
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,280
and integrate and become one.
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The second is attentiveness.
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They come attentive.
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They know how to listen.
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They are connected to their beautiful guidance, whether angels or other beings, and they're
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00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,640
not alone.
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00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,160
And they listen and they're connected to nature and to Mother Earth.
593
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:12,480
And we tell them we'd spend to go home because we have a list to do list.
594
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:16,840
And we tell them that they shouldn't get too dirty in the mud.
595
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:22,040
And we do all kinds of things that, and the monster under the bed is not real when it's
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00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,280
actually really frightened entity, but it's very real.
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00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,360
And we tell them again that first that they don't know what's right for them.
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And we distance them and we don't let them listen.
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00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:39,880
So many parents when their child just gazes, that's doing nothing.
600
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,360
That's bad education.
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00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,680
That's, they need to be doing something all day long.
602
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:53,720
So many parents feel their kids' schedule with so many activities.
603
00:37:53,720 --> 00:37:58,960
And there is no room for just dreaming, being, connecting.
604
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,920
And then we grow up and we try and find the meditation.
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00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:08,400
Hopefully we find the meditation that works for us that can bring in that stillness then,
606
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,840
but they come with that stillness.
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00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:18,240
So second promise is creating those conditions for them to stay still, be attentive.
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00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:22,920
And all of those promises are mainly about not interfering.
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00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,520
It's not, they come with what they come with.
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00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,960
We came with the same, but society has its way.
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00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:29,960
Order is needed.
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00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:31,240
I understand why.
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00:38:31,240 --> 00:38:36,960
But we also want to balance things and allow our kids to stay as true to their essence as
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possible.
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00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,800
And the third promise talks about motion and that's more about the interaction between
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kids and their parents and their family and the significance adults around them that they
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00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,640
are just as important.
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00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:56,680
When a child notices that we take that first step into healing, when we try to give them
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the opportunity to be attentive, when we are becoming aware of our own truths and often
620
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:08,680
becoming aware of our own truths starts with being aware of all those moments that we're
621
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,560
not aligned before we find that alignment.
622
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:19,120
But as we communicate energetically that we're in a motion that allows the children energetically
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00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:25,040
to see that we're trying, we're trying to be the essence that they chose to come to,
624
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,360
the potential, the promise.
625
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:35,720
That's when they can stay, it gives them like a wider time frame, I guess, to stay who they
626
00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:41,440
are because just that really slow motion of parents.
627
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:47,920
And for some, some parents carry so much wounding and so many limiting beliefs they internalize.
628
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:52,760
Even if they're aware they want to do the best and create the conditions for their kids.
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00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:57,440
And you know, and when a baby is born, we promise of the world, we really promise them
630
00:39:57,440 --> 00:39:58,440
the world.
631
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But then life happens.
632
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:07,360
But even those stages, being really self-compassionate but finding those soul moments of alignment,
633
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:13,880
of being attentive, honoring, respectful for a truth and acting according to it in the
634
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,680
very little details of life, communicates energetically to the kids.
635
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:24,080
That parent, that significant adult, that grandparent is trying.
636
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:28,720
So now you have the legitimacy to stay who you are because that's the right way of staying
637
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:29,960
who you are.
638
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,960
So these are the three promises that relate to in this book.
639
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,880
There are a few more but that we form up in the future.
640
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All right.
641
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,880
Thank you for those.
642
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,840
I'm going to back up for a minute throughout some questions here that I had along the way
643
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that I jotted down.
644
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:49,200
One is you mentioned that children choose their parents before they come here.
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00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:54,920
Tell us a little bit about that process and there are some people out there that are going,
646
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:56,600
hey, my parents were horrible.
647
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I was abused.
648
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,080
Why would I have chosen that?
649
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,080
So there's about three questions in one.
650
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,240
Try to give some explanation to how that all works.
651
00:41:05,240 --> 00:41:12,640
I'll try to give my understanding of the process in a short version.
652
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:15,280
We come here for many reasons.
653
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:20,880
One of the reasons is to experience emotions.
654
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:26,280
Experience Earth is so beautiful and there's so many experiences we can have here.
655
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:31,080
It's an amazing planet with all the sadness and the hardship and the chaos we're experiencing.
656
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,160
It's still amazing place.
657
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:39,640
And humans are such beautiful beings when they are aligned to who they are, kind and
658
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,640
loving.
659
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,520
And we come to experience all those aspects.
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00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,080
We also come here to evolve and grow.
661
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:52,240
So we have this kind of a checklist, I guess, of we want to experience this and this and
662
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:54,720
this because we haven't experienced this before.
663
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:57,600
We want to grow in these and these and these aspects.
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We want to resolve and experience all kinds of relationships with souls that are part
665
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:06,380
of our soul family.
666
00:42:06,380 --> 00:42:10,400
We also come here to provide some service and maybe a teaching to others.
667
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:19,440
So we have this checklist and then we're asking which conditions would maximize our chances
668
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:27,000
of becoming who we are, who we want to be and what we want to do in this journey, in
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this lifetime.
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00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:32,680
Sometimes we choose families that will really, really challenge us.
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00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:36,080
Now there are limits to violence.
672
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:41,160
Because nobody puts on their plans anything very, very violent.
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00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:46,440
Sometimes we know that we may come to a confused family, that the beings that the parents are
674
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:51,000
confused in, we hope because they're part of our soul family that we will be able to
675
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:57,800
push those workings that will create the ripple of healing to that family or to those parents.
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00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:04,760
Each family has at least one being, if not two, that are more sensitive, evolved, high
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00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,920
frequency beings that come and help that family resolve its stuff.
678
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:15,600
And I meet a lot of children in my practice because there's a sensitive, spiritually
679
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,720
aware ones.
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00:43:17,720 --> 00:43:24,120
I have a dear friend that she says, I was a bully, she was bullied, she became a bully.
681
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:31,480
But her ability to walk with bullies and to guide them into healing in her adult life
682
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:34,640
was possible because of her experiences.
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00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:41,760
So I think there is a limit, there is a border that we need to know that we don't nut every
684
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,760
violence in bad experience is planned.
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00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:50,920
A lot of it is because humans are very confused and it is not what we expect when we want
686
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:51,920
to come.
687
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,640
But a lot of challenges are challenges that we experience in order to become who we are.
688
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,800
Can I throw out another concept and you tell me what you think of this?
689
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:09,720
And that is that maybe when the children were making those choices, they didn't see every
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00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:12,980
single thing that was going to happen in the future.
691
00:44:12,980 --> 00:44:17,320
They saw the potential of those parents had to be.
692
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:23,360
And then maybe along the way, one or both of those parents deviated and through their
693
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:30,600
own agency to make their own choices, chose to make some bad choices and became a different
694
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:35,400
or not as good of a person and a parent as they could have been.
695
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:41,840
And so maybe that child didn't necessarily choose violence to happen to them.
696
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:47,320
But that was a consequence of the fact that that parent that they chose went off on the
697
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,320
wrong track.
698
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:49,880
You think that could be?
699
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,600
Yes, definitely, definitely.
700
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:59,160
And I think it happens more often that we want to, that we wish for.
701
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,360
Yeah, I'm afraid it does.
702
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:06,120
This human experience where we make so many mistakes.
703
00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,400
Okay, now we're going on a whole different tangent.
704
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:15,400
And I can't help but ask this in, by the way, this is a safe space.
705
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:20,160
It's non-denominational as to religion, but you brought up something that I just have to
706
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,520
ask a little question.
707
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,560
You don't have to answer it.
708
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,360
You mentioned shamanism.
709
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:28,600
How does that?
710
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:35,960
A little bit that I understand about Israel and Judaism, how does shamanism fit into that
711
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,760
and into your community and the way that you were raised?
712
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,960
Does that create some conflict or is everything cool there?
713
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,080
Everything is cool.
714
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,080
Everything is cool.
715
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:54,360
I was raised in a secular family, secular Jewish family, my grandparents are Holocaust
716
00:45:54,360 --> 00:46:02,080
survivors, and while some Holocaust survivors were all about religious, when they started
717
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:10,200
to build their lives again, my family, mine took a lot of steps back from religious religion
718
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:14,400
because of what they experienced.
719
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And my house was not spiritual either.
720
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,880
I did not hear spiritual concepts.
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As a child, I had a lot of experiences, a lot of intuition, a lot of knowing, but I
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had no one to guide me.
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Or maybe it's better to say I was not aware of the ones I could have talked to that possibly
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could have guided me a bit.
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After the car crash and as I was integrating my near-death experience, I saw that I had
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spiritual abilities.
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A child of a friend would experience something and she would call and say, Vlad, can you
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look and I would just do a light wash, something really, really simple, just share that luminosity
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and love that I was carrying in my field and the issue would be resolved.
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And I was looking for a framing.
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So I started in shamanism as a very ancient body of wisdom.
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And shamanism is a lot of things.
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So for me, it's a healing modality.
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I use it to knakes, I really relate to the connection to earth and to all beings.
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Not everyone around me can relate.
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And some people around me took some time to digest and I still have family members who
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want to know nothing about it.
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And I respect that.
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But when we think of Judaism and Kabbalah, Kabbalah is the Jewish shamanism.
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And the essence of shamanism, of being connected to all beings, of us being spiritual, being
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on a journey, earth being heaven, it's the essence of all religions in some way or another.
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So when we weave in, I'm always waiting for somebody to write that book.
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I know it will happen at some point.
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Weave in all those pieces of different religions that are walking and that provide the framework
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and order that for some reason we use really, really need because we forget who we are.
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It all comes back to the same essence.
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Now I'm skipping topics again.
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You mentioned the feeling that you had there.
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And there you never referred to it as heaven or spirit world or wherever.
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Have you put a name to it?
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I would call it, they mentioned of cosmic love.
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You mentioned that you couldn't really describe how you felt there.
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You felt love, you felt other things, okay, dig a little deeper.
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What did it really feel like?
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How can you relate it to someone who maybe hasn't felt that?
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I would invite that someone to maybe recall a moment of deep relaxation and stillness
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and maybe even guide them on a meditation because we can go very close to that when
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we do shamanic journey.
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And when we're in that very relaxed surrendering state, we call moment of alignment of the
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sole moment of alignment of joy.
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That's the closest I think that in the human experience we can go to it.
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In my sense, it's a feeling that as we talk, I feel my energy.
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I feel the luminous air surrounding me.
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The flow is very, very, very, very soft.
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I feel in my cells, in my physical cells as we talk.
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And am I managing to communicate that feeling?
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I don't know.
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Sometimes I do, sometimes I don't, depending who is listening.
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It's difficult and I think it's something we all crave that being really loved and relaxed
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and knowing where we're at play as we are, we're safe.
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People are so stressed and we feel it here very much in the past few months that it distance
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us from who we are and then feeling that sense of really, really deep, deep down that knowing.
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And I think people feel it when they're aligned and those small moments of being in nature
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of surrendering to the soil, surrendering to a tree, surrendering to the sound of the
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leaves falling down, far away the water.
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Each one of us connects to different elements, but that's when we have a moment of we're
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just in the now.
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That's when we connect to that feeling that I had in my new life experience, but I know
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people having so many other experiences.
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I don't know if I answered your questions.
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I hope I did.
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You're doing well.
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And I'm running out here.
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I know that we need to wrap up soon.
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You are raising three spiritual beings that are having an earthly human experience.
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The things that you have learned and felt, how does that help you on a day to day basis?
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What piece of advice can our listeners take away from that that can help them raise their
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children?
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I think that as soon as we understand his parents, the justice we are on a journey, they are
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on a journey.
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Our whole perspective changes because it's not a dependent baby or a dependent child
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or a teen who is struggling or not struggling, who is growing up and becoming their own self.
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It's a huge soul.
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It's a beautiful being in a dense body, just like you and I and adults that raise them or
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try to guide them.
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And when we have that understanding, I think something really, really deep shifts because
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we respect them.
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And when we respect, we set on a mutual journey.
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The hierarchy, which is still there, there are parents, there are children, there is
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some hierarchy, but the hierarchy dissolves and it's more about a shared journey.
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What am I?
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How can I serve them?
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How can I create the conditions that they need?
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And also noticing and embracing all the invitations that they bring us and they bring us so many
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invitations because they chose to come to us and they love us and they want us to be
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our best selves, our essence.
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That's part of the invitation.
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And as we embrace it, things just start to open up.
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I see that with a lot of families I work with, just understanding, awareness.
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Oh, they're on a journey too and if I respect them and listen to them and then guide them
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on their lives here on earth, not because they need to assimilate and become and be
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able to earn money and to be able to be responsible adults and to have a profession, but because
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I'm truly looking at what their needs and who they are and what essence they came here
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to express and what they came to experience and we don't know.
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It's something we keep even from ourselves, but we do our best to be who we are and then
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we serve them and they serve us and it's a mutual dance.
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So just be attentive to that, I guess that's the first thing I say to parents.
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Be attentive to the journey, embrace it, open up, listen and things will just, we open our
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hearts and things start to change because we remember who we are.
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That's such a good summary.
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I want to leave it at that.
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That's a great ending note.
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Efrat, thank you so much for being with me today.
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If anybody wants to find you or your book, it'll be in the show notes.
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Thank you.
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Thanks again for listening and sharing this podcast.
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