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From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes.
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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.
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And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my
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physical body because I was somewhere else.
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The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't
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anything else to be felt.
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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.
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I'm back home again.
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Incredibly safe and felt at home.
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Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody.
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And I'm going to give you a little preface to this interview, but let's introduce Jared
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first.
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Jared Geading from Pocatello, Idaho.
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Welcome to the show.
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Thank you very much.
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So here's the warning that I'm going to give everybody.
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From time to time, we talk about distressing or disturbing experiences that people have
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had with their NDEs.
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We also talk about other related experiences to NDEs.
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Today is going to be sort of a combination of the two.
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Not your classic died when to the other side came back, but a very similar and related
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kind of experience and with some just very distressing stuff into it.
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So parents, you might want to maybe not have kids involved in this one.
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We'll see.
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Listen to it and see.
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And I promise, you know the show, there's always a happy ending.
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So with that said, Jared, can you tell us just a little bit about you?
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Yeah, I am 50 years old, living in Pocatello.
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Got just a wonderful job.
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I've been through some really difficult things.
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Living in Utah and just had some amazing experiences that turned me into a person that
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lives in a life of gratitude and very Christ centered.
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And I very much am happy with where God has led me from a very dark place to where I'm
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at now.
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Well, we're going to jump right into it.
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Unfortunately, that's going to start with that dark place.
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Okay.
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So let's go back to where you're 24 years old.
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Give me an idea of what's going on in your life.
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You're living kind of a rough life, aren't you?
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I am.
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I had made some really bad choices, had some problems with addiction.
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My father-in-law encouraged it because he had the same problem and I was hanging out
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with him when this happened.
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And it just was just a living nightmare.
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Well tell us what happened.
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Okay.
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So him and I had decided to go meet some other gentlemen and we were just out of a bunch
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of other bad choices.
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And I don't even remember what we were doing.
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It was to get something from them and I don't remember exactly what it was, but it was something
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that was important to my father-in-law at the time and he asked me to go with him.
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So we pulled into this field that was down in Salt Lake.
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It was an empty lot, but it was just nothing but sagebrush, about an acre.
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And we were sitting there waiting and these other two gentlemen never showed up, but we
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didn't know that at the time.
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And so we're just sitting there waiting.
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And all of a sudden my father-in-law slumped over in a seat and just fell asleep.
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And I was like, well, it was just weird the way it happened.
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And at first I didn't think much of it and I just left him alone.
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And as I'm sitting there by myself, all of a sudden I see these three beings that start
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walking towards me.
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I could just tell there was just the whole feeling, the atmosphere changed.
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It was the best way to put it is that hold on my soul in a very dark place, in a very
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dark way to where I just felt in man's sphere, these beings, they had sort of like demonic
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phases.
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They just, they looked really creepy.
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You could tell there was something wrong with them.
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They weren't human, is what I'm saying.
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I don't know what they were.
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I assume they were demons, but that's just an assumption.
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To this day I don't know what they were.
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So what happened is from there I started freaking out and I tried to wake up my father-in-law
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and I'm physically hitting him and I'm grabbing him and shaking him.
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And nothing I do will wake him up like he is just out.
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And I'm flying some very serious horse.
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I mean, I'm not like slugging him, you know, but I am hitting him pretty hard and he won't
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wake up.
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Is that normal for him by the way?
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No, absolutely not.
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From what I know now is just that I was meant to have this experience.
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And have it alone it sounds like.
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Yeah, and it was to make sure that he wasn't involved.
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And so I got out of the truck and I just started running.
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One of the beans just turned and looked at me and it was with such disdain, such arrogance.
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Like you're not even worth my time.
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I'm not going to chase you.
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I don't want anything from you because you're nothing to me.
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That was the look he gave me.
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And because of the way I was living, because of just the choices I made.
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I felt like I was going to hell.
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That's what I felt like.
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Whatever you think hell is, that's what where I thought I was going.
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And I thought, well, if I'm going to hell, I was going to embrace it.
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I was 100% thinking, well, if this is the way that my wife's going to go and I'm going
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to choose that, then I'm going to embrace the dark side.
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And I think that, well, I know that's why this experience happened is because I was
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going to choose that.
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I was actually planning my first very violent experience.
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I wouldn't say I was planning a murder, but it was close to it.
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I was going to physically hurt someone and it was going to end and either probably, I
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hate to say that because it sounds so awful, but I was planning some really bad stuff.
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So as I get out and I'm running and this demon is looking at me, I very, very, very clearly
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in my head heard, this is your fate if you do not change.
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And in an instant, that whole field I'm running through changed and I could see spirits all
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around me that were in just despair.
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I wouldn't say, like, I don't know if I believe in like a hellfire burning.
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Maybe there's that, but that's not what I saw.
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What I saw was spirits that were resonating at the lowest possible frequency.
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I was so low in the way that I was living that I felt like that's where I was going
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to go if I freely chose to keep going the way I was going.
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The spirits I saw, I could hear screaming, I could hear just despair.
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I could see spirits that were people that were trying to get gratification sexually.
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Just seemed animalistic, just perversions that I've never seen before in this life.
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It was creepy and it was scary.
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Even right now I'm shaking because I'm thinking about it.
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And so what I did is I was running and it was wintertime.
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I didn't have a coat, but nothing was going to stop me from trying to run out, run this.
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And just as peeked into this plane of existence of where these spirits were, like I said,
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I don't know if it's in this hell.
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It's definitely informed us.
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Just the pure agony that I saw on these people's faces was so horrific that it absolutely scared
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me to the point where I broke down crying as I was running and I started praying for
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the first time in a long time.
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And I was begging God, please, please, just close this up.
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I don't want to see this anymore.
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I can't handle this.
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And as I was running, it's like I was running through this field trying to get out of it.
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It started to slowly close up.
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As I was running and praying, little by little, the more I prayed, the more it went away.
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I just kept running and I kept praying and it slowly started to close up.
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And I looked back and I could see that one being that was looking at me and he stared
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at me the whole time and I could see him in the distance and it was just with such disgust
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like you could run, but you're not going anywhere.
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That was the look I got from him and he was one of the scariest individuals I've ever
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seen in my life.
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And I hope I never run across him again.
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All right.
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I want to ask a couple of questions before we move on.
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Sure.
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And I don't want to dwell too much on a hellish scene, but I do have a couple of questions
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about it.
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So the three beings that seemed demonic, but then you saw other people, did they look like
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regular people?
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Yes.
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But as you said, they just looked horrible to spare, terrible things going on.
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Did the scene look like, I don't know, was it like red, fire, brimstone or I'm kind of
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picturing more of a black and white dreary?
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It was.
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It was dark and it was like a dark nest all around.
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And it was, it was just heavy.
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It is the best way for me to describe it.
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And it was people in an absolute state of just agony and people screaming, you know,
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like, I'm sorry and, and just victimizing themselves and trying to think well, so I
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can describe it.
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It was just dark.
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Everything about it was dark.
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As you've had time to think about it over the years, do you feel like you were, I don't
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know, do you feel like this was sort of a, an illusion, a dream kind of thing made up
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for you or like maybe you were seeing a real hellish experience with real life people who
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had ended up there?
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Yes.
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I believe it was a real life experience with people who were there in that experience that
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it was current.
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The reason that God said to me, this is your fate if you don't change, and I'll never forget
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those words.
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But because I was planning such evil things and I was going in such a bad direction that
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God made an exception because he needed me to go a different direction.
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He needed other things for me.
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It had the, the, the proper effect.
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Like it took me years to turn my life around.
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It wasn't instant, but I instantly tried.
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I ran home and I woke up my wife.
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How far away was that?
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About four miles.
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Oh wow.
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Long, long run.
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I just ran.
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I was so scared.
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You had some adrenaline going.
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I did.
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And I didn't care that it was winter time or cold.
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I just, I just kept running and I prayed all the way.
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I woke up my wife and said, we need to talk.
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And I just told her everything.
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I didn't hold anything back.
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And she did the most Christian act anyone has ever done for me.
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She gave up everything right then and said, well, in order for you to straighten up,
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we need to move away from my family because they're, they're the ones causing the problem.
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And we're going to move to Southern Utah with your family and get you right on the, on the
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right track.
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The funny thing is that she was an atheist, but she did the most Christian thing I've
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ever seen anybody do.
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And she gave up everything to help me.
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And it was such a timed sacrifice that I was overwhelmed by her sacrifices.
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And I would just had nothing but gratitude for her.
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And I always told her because of that, no matter what, and we ended up getting into
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divorce later, and a lot of it was because of the mistakes I had made earlier that just
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caused, you know, some problems in the marriage.
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But that was down the road where we just decided to go different ways.
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But I always told her, no matter what, if you need me, I will drop anything and be at your
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side because of what you did.
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It just, it was just such an amazing, charitable thing that she did that she gave up so much
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for me.
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And that was free, kind of a first act to show that I'm getting back on the right track.
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And I saw a bunch of other just amazing things along the way as I started to turn my life
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around and, and head back to a Christian way of life.
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And this isn't probably an important part of the story, but I'm just so curious.
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What happened to the father-in-law?
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He was left there asleep in hell.
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Was he okay?
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Did he just wake up later?
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Did you go back and get him?
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He was comfortable there.
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So he never changed.
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He's still alive.
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But he woke up.
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Yeah.
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I saw him the next day.
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He came over to my house and he's like, Oh, sorry, I fell asleep.
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Those guys never showed up.
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And I was like, Oh, okay.
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I didn't tell him the experience because he was very much a non-believer and everything.
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My wife, which is her father said, Hey, we need to talk.
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And she ripped into him.
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And this is a, we're leaving, we're moving because of what you've contributed to my house
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done's wellbeing and, and why not?
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And she was fearless in, in descending me, just an amazing woman.
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I still think she, she may be my ex-wife, but she is just an amazing person, amazing
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human being.
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That's a great attitude.
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Okay, I'm done asking questions for a minute.
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You keep going here.
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So was it hard to turn your, you mentioned it wasn't easy to turn your life around immediately.
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That sounds like you had addictions to get over that take a few years.
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You know, here's the funny thing is once I started praying and I told God, I'd turned
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my life around and what I, I felt like he instantly sent out, not only with the way
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that my wife was acting and, and her defense of me and willing to help me change.
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Once I was honest with her and I told her everything, the funny thing is the addiction
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instantly left.
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Like I, I quit that day and I did not ever pick it up again.
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And it, it was amazing to me.
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I even told her that and like how, how is it possible to be addicted for over a year
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and hide it and speak around and, and just this whole nightmare of what addiction is.
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And the next day be able to get over it.
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Like to me, it was a miracle to me.
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It was, it was amazing.
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It was humbling.
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And that was, I feel like God also helping me to overcome something that I desperately
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needed help with.
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And you said that during the experience, God told you, this is your fate.
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If you do not change, did you feel like that was actually a voice out loud?
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Or was this a thought in your head?
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What was it?
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I was a very, very strong voice in my head.
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I didn't hear it out loud, but I did hear it in my head.
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And it's not like the voice that you hear when you're, you're thinking and you're thinking
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things through or talking to yourself or it wasn't that it was very much a very different
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presence, very different strong voice.
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And many times since then, I have prayed and asked God, did this really happen?
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Then I mean, was, was it just a chemical balance?
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Am I just crazy?
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And I've gotten a very strong response to that.
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But no, I sent that experience to you because I needed you back on my side.
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I didn't need you to go down there and do those things.
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And he, he needed me on my side for my benefit.
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You know, there's nothing that God can't do on his own, but he was doing it for me.
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So since then, I did a lot of self-help type things and made sure that I tried to change
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and be the exact opposite of how I was.
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And now I live every day trying to make the world a better place.
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Just one, one kind act at a time.
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Make sure I treat everybody the way I want to be treated.
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Make sure that I try to contribute in some way to this life every day.
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Even if it's just something small, like making sure that I show kindness to somebody in the
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store.
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And of course, any act I could ever do to help someone I would do as just me trying
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to do just the opposite of the way I used to live.
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By the way, listeners, if you think we're wrapping up here, and this is going to be
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a short episode, we're not, we're just going to jump into part two here, which is a really
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cool experience that happened to you about five years later, right?
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It is.
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Yes.
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So I kept wondering, have I done enough?
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And I would pray and ask God, have I done enough?
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And I would get the answer or just the, just a feeling of God's love saying, you know,
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you really need to stop worrying about that.
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Like you're, you're, you're fine.
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You're on the right track.
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You're doing well.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Now back to the guest.
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So about five years later, I'm living in American Fort.
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I had been remarried, been married about a year and my wife was pregnant with our first
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child.
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I go in for knee surgery and while I'm in under knee surgery, I had an experience.
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I remember them putting me to sleep and the next thing I remember is me having a conversation
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with my unborn child and I'm able to see him and I'm looking right at him.
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I remember looking at him and going, why you look so much like your mom and you look so
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much like me.
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He was in his mid-20s.
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He turned to me, he said, I love you dad, but he said it mind to mind.
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When he said it, it was like a freight train of love just at full blast, blast interior.
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That's the best way I can describe it.
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It was just so amazing.
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Words can't describe it.
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Like I say, a freight train in your love was the best description I can give that even
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that's inadequate, but I remember looking at him and I remember thinking, wow, I love
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you so much.
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I was able to convey it back and the next day I know I woke up in the recovery room
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and I was so frustrated because I wanted to remember more.
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I knew there was more when I first went to the, when I was talking to my son, the feeling
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was like when you're talking to someone and somebody else walks into the room and all
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of a sudden you stop talking for whatever reason, maybe the situation, the other person
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is not supposed to know about or whatever, but it's like there's something else right
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on the tip of your tongue or you're, you just have this feeling like you're just about ready
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to express something and then it stops.
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That was the feeling I had.
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And then I look at my son and he said, I love you dad.
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And then I woke up and I was like, oh man, why can't I remember more?
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That just seems like so unfair.
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Like I wanted some great out of body experience.
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You know, you took up any dear death experience book and they've had, you know, all these
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long journeys and conversations and I prayed about it and trying to remember more and I
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knew there was more.
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But like I even went to a hypnotist and hypnotist, she said, well, let me stop you right there
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because if you're not supposed to remember it, then the hypnotism is not going to help
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you.
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If God doesn't want you to remember for whatever reason, then you're not going to remember it.
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And so it took me about two years.
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And I finally came to the realization that at that time I couldn't handle more.
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And if God had given me more, it would have been counterproductive, but he gave me just
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what I needed.
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But that memory, I know now that there's God, I saw the other side even for just a brief
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second.
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I felt it.
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I saw my son, my unborn child.
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That was enough.
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And it supported me many, many times in this life to help me keep moving forward and to
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keep my eyes, you know, in the direction it needs to be towards God.
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But if he had given me more at the time, I would have, I guess, gone on the deep end
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or for whatever reason, I couldn't handle at the time.
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So loving God gave me just what I could handle.
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That completely makes sense.
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And I've talked to many people that have had similar thoughts that we don't like to admit
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it.
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You know, we're like, no, we don't.
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I couldn't handle more.
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No, we don't like to admit that, but I really believe that people are given the experience
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that is just right for them, whether it's a little or a lot or somewhere in between.
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They're given what they need and what is best for them.
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We don't know what's best for us.
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And let's face it, if God opened up too much, I think it would be really hard for us to
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stay here in this mortal realm on this earth when we would be longing to be in that spirit
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world so desperately.
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I think it would just be, it'd be too hard.
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Yes.
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We've been given a gift of not remembering a lot of things, whether it's, you know, something
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during an NDE, whether it's where we lived and what it was like before this life.
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Yeah.
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There's a reason we don't know it all and it's good for us.
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It's been difficult for me that I had that experience.
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I know there's another side.
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I saw it because I saw that.
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I know that we, we live before we came here.
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I know that there's a loving God.
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I know that, that when family passes on that they're there to help us.
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I know that there's just so much more when we pass on and just from that small experience
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I had.
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And so it's made it so that I can stay grounded here, but I very much look forward to the time
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when, when my journey here is over and I can feel that love again because it was, it was
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just incredible.
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It, oh, I forgot to say to mention this, but it, it lasted for three days and little by
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little it just faded out.
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But for that three days, it's like I felt encompassed in this love that my son's there.
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And we're not able to really experience it in this life.
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Our bodies aren't capable of experiencing that kind of love.
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And when I had that out of body experience that I felt that it just stayed with me for,
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for three days.
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And it was, it was amazing three days.
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And I would just break down crying because I just felt so overwhelmed with, with love
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and to know that there's a loving God on the other side waiting for us.
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I was excited for my son to be born, couldn't wait to tell him about it when he was older.
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I didn't idea.
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I tell him now and he's just kind of like, okay, whatever.
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You're weird.
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No, when he's a little older, he'll want to hear more about it.
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How long was this before he was born?
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Oh, geez.
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My wife was, she was about five or six months pregnant.
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So he was close.
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And you remember, I know you don't remember a lot about it in addition to the feeling,
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but do you remember seeing him in a place?
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You said you saw him at what, at what age was it again?
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20 something?
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He was in his mid twenties.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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And so it was really bright around him.
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And so I only had, I would say three to four seconds and I was so focused on him that
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I didn't see anything else around.
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I, and I kicked myself like, why didn't you look around?
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Why didn't you get more, you know, but my son deserves my full attention and he had it.
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And like I said, we were in discussion of something and it was taken from me, but I
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just remember looking at him and I was so amazed that to me, just such a beautiful person.
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I looked at him and remember thinking you just encompass every good trait or value of
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your mother and every good trait and value of, of, of mine.
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Just the embodiment of him seemed so pure and so strong and beautiful.
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And I was amazed by all that.
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And so I couldn't take my eyes off of him.
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Because I just remember thinking one, one amazing looking man my son was.
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And I think once we pass on that, that's what awaits us.
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I think that's what we will encompass as well is we'll start to embrace the grid, good
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traits and the good qualities and, and other people will see the, the beautiful and strong
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parts of us on the other side.
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And that's what awaits for us.
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How old is he now?
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21.
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So he's about at that age where you saw him.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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He is.
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And he does look that way.
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He looks exactly like I saw him in that.
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And, and he is by far, so I have six children and he is by far my best looking child.
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And he, I'm going to tell the others you said that you're in trouble.
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Well, all of them know that.
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Like he is just way too good looking for his own good.
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Like he is just an incredibly beautiful, beautiful person.
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And yeah, he knows it, but he handles it really well.
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During that three days after your surgery, you must have been kind of glowing.
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Oh, absolutely.
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Did your wife or anybody notice?
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Yes.
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My wife did.
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She, I think she was kind of mad that she hasn't had an experience like that, but, but
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she did believe me and the very first thing when I woke up, who I asked for her and the
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very first words out of my mouth was I told her, I saw her son.
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And so she believed me because it's not like you're, you're going to write out a surgery
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that the very first thing you're, you're eager to do is make up something like that.
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You know, that just, that just doesn't happen unless that just doesn't happen.
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She was very much on my side, very much believed me and, and we, we talked a lot about it.
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And it was just an incredible experience.
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And it, like I said, it's carried me many, many times in this life where I've had some
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struggles or I've had some difficulty and I'll always think back to that fact.
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I think about that experience almost every day to this day.
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Think that I, I really can't wait till I'm done here.
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And I got, I really look forward to the time where I can go to the other side.
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I guess I don't need to ask you the question, what's your fear level of death?
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Oh man, I have, I have zero fear of death.
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I very much look forward to it.
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But on the other hand, I try to keep myself grounded and it's kind of funny.
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I feel like God has this mission for me through one day at a time, make the world a better
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place and it, to me, it seems like it's kind of silly, but I laugh about it, but I still
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do it.
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I still try my artists to treat anybody I come in contact with, with as much kindness
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as I can, treat them the way I want to be treated.
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And if they ever get a chance to go and help someone, then I do that to try to make the
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world's better place.
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Well, Jared, I appreciate your time so much.
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And thank you for reaching out to me about this.
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I know you haven't shared this, you know, on other things online and stuff.
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And so I appreciate you coming here and doing that.
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Any last thoughts you want to leave with our listeners?
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Just that I think that God has a direction for all of us.
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And I think that I had some really extreme things in my life where God kind of had to
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step in and, and I, but I think we're far better off.
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Just to know God loves us and try to go in that direction and, and just doing the best
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we can make the world a better place one day at a time, one time to act at a time.
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Thank you, Jared.
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Thanks for your time.
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You're welcome, sir.
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Thank you so much for listening and supporting the show.
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Just a reminder, click on over to roundtriptest.com to make a donation and there'll be a link
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in the show notes.
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Until then, I wish you every good thing that you're looking for in this life and the next.
