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From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes.
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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.
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And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my
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physical body because I was somewhere else.
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The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't
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anything else to be felt.
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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.
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I'm back home again.
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Incredibly safe and felt at home.
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Welcome, welcome to RoundTripDeath everybody, and I'd like to welcome our special guest,
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Laura Lydrock.
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How are you this morning?
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I'm doing good.
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Thank you so much.
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I know it's afternoon for you.
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Hey, we're going to be talking about multiple near-death experiences that you have had.
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So there's a little hint for the listeners of what there is to come.
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I'd like to take just a brief one minute before we start and have you tell us a little bit
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about you.
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Who is Laura Lydrock?
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What do you do?
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Tell us anything you feel like sharing.
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Oh, well, thank you.
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Well, I was born in the Midwest on a large farm, which plays into my first experience.
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I'm a mother of three, and a strange thing about me is my whole family is experiencers.
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So there's a lot of support that way because we've all had various experiences and near-death
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experiences.
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From those, all my clear abilities are very wide open.
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So I do a lot of session work with people, helping them find self.
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I always say I'm a remembrance guide, I'm not a healer.
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I just help you remember who you are and your ability to heal yourself.
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And so I have all those labels.
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I do not like labels.
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That's another thing about me, but you like psychic mediumship.
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I'm a medical intuitive and all those different healer labels you can grow out there.
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Did any of those start before your experiences?
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Of course, the first one, you were only seven years old, so you probably don't remember.
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I know my mother used to say even from the time I could first talk that I was a very
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old soul, I just understood things I should for my age and just a keen empathy, you know,
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that others didn't seem to quite have.
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So I am not sure on that either, like you said, because it was at seven.
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I know I had prophetic dreams, but I don't know if they started before or after.
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I'm pretty sure it was after.
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I'm curious about your family, and I wasn't expecting to talk about this, but there are
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so many people that have NDEs that feel like they can't talk to anybody.
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You know, we had someone on the show recently who even I certainly will not name names,
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but he didn't tell his wife that he was going to be on the show because she's like doesn't
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believe it, thinks it sounds crazy, and it's really hard for him that he cannot talk to
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the most important person in his life about it.
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So what's your family like?
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Is this a very open topic at the dinner table?
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I can ask that even by my friends, like how does a family like yours even go out in public
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because we're all so into and psychic and all that other labels, right?
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You know, and it was difficult for a while, I will say this, because even though my husband's
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had various experiences, he's very scientific, genius IQ, you know, like everything has to
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answer has an answer.
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And his theory is, you know, magic is just science.
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We haven't figured out yet, like all of this is science, which, you know, quantum physics
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is starting to prove some of this.
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So until he started having some major experiences and stuff within the last few years, it was
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a little more hard to bring up.
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So me and my daughters would talk about things.
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And then recently, you know, my son always kind of understood, but he would tease me
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about the tinfoil hat and stuff, but that he's had some profound experiences within
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the last few years.
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So now I'm the one he comes to because he's having major experiences.
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And I know like him and my daughter, my daughter said like two or three NDs already.
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I think my son did it.
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Birth, my other daughters had two.
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And my husband, I think, has had three.
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I'm just saying, like you wouldn't believe, you know, that people are like, how is that
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possible, your whole family?
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But just various things that have happened along our life path.
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And I think it was to accelerate our awareness together.
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It also sounds like you're all very accident prone.
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Well, some are medical procedures that went wrong and various.
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And my two children was like a birth experience.
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I had very difficult birth.
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They almost didn't make it.
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So all right, let's start with NDE number one.
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You were seven years old.
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What was going on?
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Give me a little background.
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We lived on 191 acres in rural Wisconsin.
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And it's like it used to be a quarry.
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So I had five large ponds and this was a drowning experience.
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My aunt and uncle lived on the farm across the street and they had come over and it was
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late afternoon.
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So anyway, my brother wanted to go check, must have been spring, so he wanted to check
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if the bluegills were spawning and maybe fish.
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So my mom was cooking and I was the only other one child they're like, take your sister
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with.
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And so yeah, so we ended up going down to the ponds, walking down there.
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And that led into my near death experience because I didn't know how to swim.
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So did you fall in or what happened?
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Yeah.
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Well, how it went was we went to the third and fourth pond, which in the spring are
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very connected because when the ice melts, the water's higher.
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So they stopped off at the first entrance to check the bluegills.
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My uncle and my brother did.
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I asked my aunt if she could go on to the next one because I wanted to look out into
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what we call the swim hole.
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It was like 30 foot deep.
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And there was a smaller pond besides that where in the spring all the frogs laid tadpoles
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and stuff because I used to like to raise tadpoles.
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So I had to take me over there.
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She also couldn't swim, which is of note.
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And so she was kind of afraid of water.
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So she stayed up on the bank and I walked down the bank in onto this makeshift pier that
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my family had built with pallets and posts.
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And I went out there and like the afternoon sun, you know how it hits across the water.
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It was very hypnotizing.
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So I was on the left side or right where the sun was hitting and I was starting to feel
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a little woozy.
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So I went to the other side where I was out of the sun and couldn't see the rippling of
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the water.
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I mean, at that time, this one she asked, you know, are you gonna be okay?
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I want to go check on your uncle.
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She had kind of like separation anxiety from him.
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And I'm like, oh yeah, we were like seven years old and she left you though.
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But like with farm kids, we had more responsibility.
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Like I said, I was always an old soul.
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Nobody ever like worried about me that way.
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I spend all day out in the woods.
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You know, it's just how we were raised.
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She went to go do that.
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And my last conscious memory is like her walkie-talkie asking if I would be okay.
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Next thing I knew, literally I was underwater with the like the air bubbles like screaming
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in the air bubbles coming up in front of my face.
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And that's when I was like, oh my God, this is my air.
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And then I'm like, hold on, I'm underwater.
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I can't breathe in, you know, and then I'm like, oh my God, if I breathe in, I'm gonna
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die.
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And as soon as I had the thought of death, I was out of my body.
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I'm just out watching it sink and in watching the in your play, I'll take place between
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my family.
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I think they must have heard me fall in.
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But this is where I connected my consciousness to each family member.
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So the first consciousness that I recall connected with was my brother.
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And he was wondering if he could run to me faster or swim that area faster.
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And I was laughing because I was like, I had no concern for my body.
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And I was laughing going, you can't do either very fast, you know.
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So I would, that was that, you know, and I was just in there laughing.
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But the next thing I switched to my uncle's consciousness and he was wondering, you know,
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what happened and why she's leaving, you know, they're gonna blame us.
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You know, one of, she doesn't make it all of these things.
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And then my aunt, you know, she was having similar thoughts, but also like, how can I'm
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closest?
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How do I get to her?
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If I don't do this right, we're both going to drown, you know.
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So she decided she could hang on to like the post and try to reach me and like tend to
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scoop me in, you know, like see if she can grab my hair or my hand or something to kind
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of pull me up.
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And so then like I said, they were all running towards me.
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So as soon as I checked on them, I went like what I would call my hire.
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Like I was way up so I could see for miles this time.
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And that's why I connected with my mother's consciousness back at home because that punch
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there is probably another mile, right?
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So she was cooking, she was wondering if he caught anything.
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I think she was chopping up vegetables for chili.
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And so as soon as I checked on her, I completely left what I call the earth venue.
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And I was, what this like, only I can describe is like rolling myths, like clouds.
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And I could tell I didn't have a body and this guy didn't have a body, but I could tell
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there was some like a presence with me to my left.
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And I felt like aunt size, you know, and we're looking up at this huge archway up also to
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the left that felt way up above us.
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And there was this light emanating from this archway that is indescribable in the sense
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it was like white to yellow, you know, to amber to orange as it expanded.
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But it literally felt like it slowly encompassed the whole space.
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And the most, you know, like LED Watts in your eyes.
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And I remember thinking like this should hurt to look at, you know, like I felt like looking
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at the sun up close.
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And there was the most overwhelming love, you know, it's like parental love times a thousand.
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There's just not human words for it really.
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I can't.
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It was like literally, I say this now, but it's kind of ironic in the wording of like
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the way to the world was off view.
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Like you just felt such immense peace, freedom, love.
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And there are there happened, you know, there was like a being.
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I knew there was a being in the side of this light.
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Like it must I feel like the light was emanating from it possibly or through whatever this
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archway led to.
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And I remember having this conversation, you know, about my life and being shown things,
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but I don't remember what they were.
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And I remember having this huge argument that felt like it lasted like eternity.
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It's like time is different there anyway.
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But I was arguing and like, no, you can't make me go back.
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I'm not going back to that.
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There's no way.
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There's no, I'm not going to.
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This is, you know, and it, like I said, that felt like it went on forever.
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But then it was like, I was related to the Truman show because that's the only way I
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can.
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It was like, it's like a big booming voice coming over the PA.
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It says you, it was male and authoritative.
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And it says you must go back, you have more to do.
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And something you mean, you like, you don't argue with this voice.
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Like that's the end of it.
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And that, like I said, I felt so small, but this is the funny part.
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Like your personality doesn't change.
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And I'm just like, I've always been this way.
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Like you can't tell me what to do.
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So I was like, okay, well, you can make me go back to my body, but you can't make me
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go in it.
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You can make me go back to earth, but not get there.
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I distinctly remember that.
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So then next thing I knew, I was like next to my body and I'm with my body and I'm watching
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him, you know, carry it up there and lay it on its side.
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There was no ill effects.
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I don't remember coughing up any blood or anything.
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I just was like disassociated in the sense that like, I don't even think I spoke to the
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next day.
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And that's when I confronted my family about their thoughts while I was underwater.
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But even for like the year after, I think it took me at least a year before like, I
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felt embodied.
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Like I was not, I was with it, but I wasn't with it.
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Because that makes sense.
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That's so interesting.
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Let me interject a couple of things.
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Because you went very fast through all this.
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You briefly mentioned a guide.
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Dude, can you tell me anything about the guide?
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Not at all.
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I just sensed a presence that was with me.
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Like, you know, like, you know, like you would present something to royalty or something.
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Like you'd have the page bring somebody up.
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That's what it felt like.
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Like I just knew I was safe with this being and that, you know, it was somehow like responsible
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for me, like presenting me like, okay, well here she is, you know.
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So then in this super bright archway, the being that you saw or heard or both there,
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that was a different being than your guide?
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Yes.
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And a different one than told me I had to go back.
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I mean, this one was telling me I had to go back and making me aware of like the things
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I chose to do and everything.
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But yeah, so it was three distinct different energies, beings.
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I'm sorry, I got two.
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Who was the third one?
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One was the guide.
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One was the original one that was showing me my life and all of the things.
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Okay.
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And that I was arguing with about returning.
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Third one was this demanding male presence that told me to return.
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Look, we've had enough.
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You're going back.
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You've had a long time to think about this.
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Who do you think the demanding male presence was?
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I honestly cannot say I'm sure.
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Like I kind of understand now through all of my different experience that that light
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and that person showing me my life was my like higher self, you know, whatever you want
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to call it, my over soul, whatever the, the, the totality of me was that light.
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As far as that being, I've had a lot of other experiences where literally seeing like screens
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and watching things play out like the Truman Show kind of where it's all these screens
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and different aspects of lives in my life.
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So I almost feel like if I were to say that, I would say it was like more like the controller,
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the person that knew all the plan, like this is the divine plan.
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You need to go back to stop.
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We're wasting your time here.
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So I mean, some people may want to throw a label like God, but the God source of my understanding
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is a lot more removed from this process.
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One thing I find interesting here is that most people and a lot of people of course
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are given a choice.
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You can go back or you can stay.
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Here's some ideas of what you want to think about to help you make your choice.
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Other people are like you and they're just like, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not going
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back, but then they're usually talked into it.
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So you know, you need to go back because X, Y, Z, and then they decide, okay, I'll go
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even though I don't really want to.
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But it sounds like you never got to that point.
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You had no choice.
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You just were, you had to.
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I was so young and I know that like I had things to do, but I knew that they would be
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very difficult.
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I mean, that was the sense.
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I got like, oh God, I don't want to go through that.
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What did I sign up for?
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It's harder than you think, you know?
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So I think that was part of it.
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You know, my later experiences, you know, you and I have touched based on that, that
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I definitely chose and was given choices.
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But for this one, I think I was so young that I hadn't really done any of the things that
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I was going to.
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And this particular experience happened right around either before or right after the death
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of my grandfather.
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And I think it was partly tied to that because I was so close to him.
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He was the only supportive person in my life at that time that it might have been to help
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that process as well, you know, to understand and not be as affected.
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It's still affecting me greatly.
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I had to go to counseling, you know, but I'm just saying it was.
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So I think it was partly in relation to that as well.
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Now back to the guest.
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I also want to talk more about the, as you put it, overwhelming love that you felt.
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But if that's going to come up in some of your other experiences to talk about in a minute,
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no?
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Let's talk about it now.
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I know you said there weren't words for it.
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Try a little harder.
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Try a little harder.
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I'm going to open up a sasaris here.
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Try to explain what that felt like.
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You know, I do say it's almost like a mother's love in that sense, but amplified so beyond
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that.
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It feels like the most acceptance, it feels like you are completely seen and known.
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I've had further experiences, so I know that I'm living multiple lives and variations and
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consciousness at once.
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It's like you're seeing in your whole totality everything that you judged about yourself,
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everything that you've ever been, acted on, every emotion you've ever known.
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Everything is completely accepted, completely understood, completely known.
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Like there is nothing hidden.
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You are in your complete authenticity as a being, but completely at one with this love
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and knowing you are this love and that there is nothing outside that exists but this love.
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I'm trying to think if there's anything earthly other than being, you know, giving birth to
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a child that I couldn't possibly compare it to, and even that's so minor.
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It's like this authentic purity of consciousness.
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Like you understand everything in that moment, and nothing matters in the sense of all the
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worries that we have and the burdens that we have on earth.
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Like I have to go to work, I have to pay something, or I won't be able to survive.
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I won't be able to have a work for my head or food in my stomach or any of those things.
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You realize that doesn't matter.
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It was all living nightmare.
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You might call it it was a dream.
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I've had further experiences where they literally tell me this is a dream, a simulation, a manifestation
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of thought and emotion playing out in physical matter.
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So you know, when you're able to leave something like that and know all of it was over at a
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blink of an eye, it was only not even a blink of an eye of your totality, all of that is
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stripped away.
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So you just understand and all of that leaving you, you're at this complete peace.
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And you are that pure love because everything has been stripped away but that love because
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that's really what you are.
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And I guess that's the most I can explain it, I think.
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That must have made you different than all the other seven-year-olds out there.
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Growing up for you must have been different.
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I hope in a really good way.
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Most kids, did it remove things like your fear of death?
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Like I said to my mom the next day, I know I died and this is what happened.
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I told my brother his thoughts and he freaked out.
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There was no way that's when he went ran, got my mom like something happened to her.
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But I mean, in general, kids would always say you're weird but in a good way.
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Because I knew things.
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I knew their emotion.
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I knew things.
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After this seven-year-old experience, I lived in deja vu for years and years and years.
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A thought would trigger and then I'd see the next 10 minutes play out.
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That always made me knew that I was still on the path that I had chosen.
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With that in mind, I always knew who was going to betray me or these different things.
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I had an inner knowing about people.
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I could tell you in a few minutes what their deal was and what their wounds were.
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Yeah, it made it difficult in some ways because I literally could sense when people were prepared
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to die.
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Usually two weeks before they would start to look like melting wax dummies as their soul
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energy would leave their body.
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Later years, I can my 20s, I could tell when people were going to be born.
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Then a year, you're going to have a daughter.
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Back as a seven-year-old, seven to 12, that was very hard.
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I would get very ill and there was a certain weird pain I'd get in my stomach that told
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me somebody was about to leave the venue.
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That was something that frightened me, obviously, as a seven-year-old and seeing that as a seven-year-old.
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That's something I asked them, this is not what I want to know.
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You can bring me anything positive, but I don't want these things that are too traumatic
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for me.
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Interesting.
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It did make my family different towards me.
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I will say that.
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It made it harder.
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They felt judged because they were farming and hunting family.
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When I came back, even before I take this experience, I just didn't resonate with that,
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but it was very profoundly obvious.
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That's too worth.
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Because I knew their thoughts and different things, I always played... My mother called
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the devil's advocate.
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I don't like that term, but I could say, well, this is how they're seeing it.
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This is how they're experiencing it.
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They don't mean to be this way.
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I would constantly do that and it drove everyone.
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I learned to sermon after a while.
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My mother used to say I was tactlessly honest because I could literally say, I'd be like,
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you lie because I could tell when people were lying.
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It was bad.
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It didn't make life easy.
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I think you summarized it a minute ago when you said, weird in a good way.
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Let's fast forward to experience number two.
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Correct me if I have any of this wrong, but you're an adult now.
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You're undergoing a medical procedure.
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You've had anesthesia.
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Were you allergic to the anesthesia or did they just give you too much?
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They gave me too much.
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I didn't realize I had issues with anemia at that time.
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I bled out.
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I was bleeding out.
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It was at the hospital that I worked for.
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The doctor was very angry with me, like, why do you wait on having the DNC?
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I wanted off the meds the next day because I felt perfectly fine.
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I argued with him.
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He's like, I almost lost you last night.
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That's another reason I knew I almost died.
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He's like, you can stop bleeding again to death.
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I'm like, no, I'm fine.
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I knew I was fine.
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I knew I went home for healing.
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This one was not a profound experience like the other one.
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My grandmother had come to me.
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She had told me that this was my first pregnancy that I was aware of.
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We had heard the baby's heartbeat and everything.
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I was about three months along.
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She came to me and said, this baby is not yours to keep.
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There will be more.
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This is prior to the DNC?
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Yes.
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Yes.
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Two weeks before she had come to me and then she showed me the date on the calendar.
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This was a visitation and everything played out that way.
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That night I was babysitting a bunch of my nephews and cousins while their parents were
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out.
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Me and my husband were.
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I started bleeding really heavily in severe pain.
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We called my mom and they took me to ER.
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We determined I needed an emergency DNC and I stopped breathing.
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I was intubated and gave it a ton of meds because I was bleeding out.
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I went home for healing so that I could have more children.
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I had this whole prerabetic vision in my early 20s about my first child and things that would
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happen to them.
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I knew I was supposed to have children.
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That was my understanding.
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My remembrance from later experiences, I just went home and there were these beings around
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me that did this healing.
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It was confirmed by the doctor as well because he said my body, when they did the autopsy
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or whatever you want to call that, they said that the systems on the baby, her bodily systems
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did not enter the penette.
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They said it was my body's way of learning how to make a baby and that if I wanted another
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baby I had to have one right away.
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I did.
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I had a rainbow baby.
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That was that experience.
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It was so weird because I was okay with it.
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I even went on saying I already had a party scheduled that night and everything else.
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I was the one consoling everyone else.
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They was fine.
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This was supposed to happen.
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This is part of the plan.
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All right.
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Let's go on to the next one.
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This one's a little more profound, isn't it?
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My third one is I lost blood so to my brain during my experience because I was diagnosed
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with autoimmune and autonomic nervous issues.
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I lost blood flow to my brain.
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I was in the living room with my husband and my daughter and I was talking to my husband.
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Anyway, I'm like, I don't feel right.
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There's something wrong.
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I started backing up.
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I lost consciousness, but he said I continued to back up and then I collapsed against the
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door, but I hit the door, back of my head hit the door jam.
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He said I seizureed and slumped over and stopped breathing.
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I was instantly gone.
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I was in this area I call like Heaven City.
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It was like, it was like the years this mist of blackout, everything else, but I remember
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this white mist again when I was on like this, I would say Granite Park bench and I was with
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this being who looked like my mother, but I didn't say like, I knew it wasn't her energy.
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I was very aware of these things.
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The being was very contrite and like almost supplied that I recognized it wasn't actually
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her and said like telepathically, like it was for your benefit, we want to keep you calm.
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This one, I did see like her body and mine only in this sense, I remember her like rubbing
474
00:26:54,560 --> 00:27:00,120
my knee, we're both sitting on this park bench and she was rubbing my knee and she was like,
475
00:27:00,120 --> 00:27:05,040
it's okay, you can stay, you've done enough.
476
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,600
You've put it in a positive balance, kind of how I understood it.
477
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,720
You don't have to go back.
478
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,400
You've done enough now.
479
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,400
And I instantly was like, no, my daughter needs me.
480
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,880
I have to go back.
481
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:24,800
And this was through a whole period of remembrance that in another lifetime, I had died on her
482
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:29,720
same soul, we had incarnated in like the 1800s England and I was a cobbler.
483
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,840
This is a whole long story to this, but I had died in my wife's arms with her at my feet
484
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:40,360
at the same age and she has past life memories of trying to survive and live on the wharf
485
00:27:40,360 --> 00:27:47,680
after I had died because I was the only means in that time period of income.
486
00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:52,720
So I made the decision that I wasn't going to leave her and do the same soul trauma that
487
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,360
I did in that life.
488
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:57,660
I wasn't going to leave her again at this age.
489
00:27:57,660 --> 00:27:59,640
So I chose to go back.
490
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:05,120
But what's profound about the experience in the past life for remembrance is within this,
491
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:12,800
what happened was, which I think is important to share as this cobbler, my shop was in town
492
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,560
and I was walking back over this cobblestone bridge and it was like dust, very little darker
493
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:23,760
and two robbers came at me because they wanted my coin purse because they saw me close shop,
494
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:24,760
right?
495
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,760
They had been watching me or something.
496
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:26,760
They had planned it.
497
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:32,880
And the one had like a little musket handheld type gun on me and demanded my coin purse.
498
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,040
So I gave it to him, but he got greedy.
499
00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,200
Then he wanted like my pocket watch, I remember.
500
00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,160
And his companions are freaking out like, no, we got enough.
501
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,760
You know, it was trying to grab it.
502
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,440
And well, my family's a gun family.
503
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,720
If you know anything about those old muskets, everything that's hair trigger, it went off
504
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,280
and it shot me right under the right rib.
505
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:56,400
And then they were freaking out and being apologetic and like ran off and I made my way home and
506
00:28:56,400 --> 00:29:00,480
into my home and collapsed my wife's arms and passed away.
507
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:05,040
I remember saying I was so sorry that I loved them, but that always makes me very wishless.
508
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,040
Excuse me.
509
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:11,600
But when I came into this particular lives, I had this pain.
510
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,760
Ever since childhood, I had all sorts of doctor visits and tests and they couldn't figure
511
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:18,800
out what this pain was same spot.
512
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:25,480
And through this experiences and understanding why it happened and how and feeling their emotions
513
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:31,280
and their sorrow for doing it, I was able to release that and I didn't have that pain
514
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:32,280
after that.
515
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:33,280
Okay.
516
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,480
I'm just trying to keep up.
517
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:42,800
Next experience I titled here in my notes, reverse shared death experience.
518
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,800
Yeah.
519
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,080
Explain what in the world that means.
520
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:52,480
Well, in that particular experience, I'm the one that experienced death, but I had two
521
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:58,360
friends that validated it and experienced parts of it with you.
522
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,240
How did you die this time?
523
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:05,560
I had some autonomic nervous system issues leading up to it where my body would either
524
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,560
freeze up or I would momentarily not be able to swallow or not be able to breathe like
525
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:12,400
with the week leading up to this.
526
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,480
And I didn't feel very well when I went to bed that night.
527
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:15,480
I said, I feel off.
528
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:16,480
Something's not right.
529
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,960
Well, I stopped breathing in my sleep that.
530
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:19,960
Okay.
531
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:21,160
So then what happened?
532
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,520
What was the most painful about the shared death?
533
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,360
Within this experience, my husband and my daughter, who I knew are part of what people
534
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,520
might call a soul group of my were present, but they were off to like the left side.
535
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:38,680
In front of me was what I call my, some people might call it twin soul or soulmate.
536
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,680
He was in front of me.
537
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:41,520
I know I'm in this lifetime.
538
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:47,320
And then my other friend was over here and I remember those two, they were all in white.
539
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,720
They looked similar to how they do here.
540
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,320
And it was simultaneously that I was having these conversations with my twin flame and
541
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:54,440
my friend.
542
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:59,160
My first conscious thing was like, like I said, being in this white mist again, nothing
543
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,640
else was this mist that seemed to go on forever.
544
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,560
I call that the quantum space now, but, and I could sense that there were other beings
545
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,120
that didn't go to the parts of my soul family, but they were in physical form because I didn't
546
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,560
recognize their energy kind of thing.
547
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:17,400
So she is over here telling me like, if I want that body, I need to get light back in
548
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:18,920
it now.
549
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:24,920
While he's giving me this whole, I call it, being called the principal's office lecture
550
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:31,080
about and my level of light, I have to be mindful of what I'm creating, you know, with
551
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,240
thoughts, emotions, everything.
552
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:37,840
So I had this whole knowing and download of all this stuff regarding how those things
553
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:39,840
are created that we can maybe get into.
554
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,240
But, but I was getting yelled at and I told them, I said, like, what do you want from me?
555
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,240
Human me is a dit.
556
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,000
I forget these things the minute I'm in a physical body.
557
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,640
Because I remember this thing something on those lines with a conversation with my other
558
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,760
friend that was simultaneously was that she was saying, you know, if you want that body,
559
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,720
ask you back into it now.
560
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:02,240
And I remember asking her how and she's like, you need to swallow.
561
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,440
And then I asked, and that I'm like, how do you start this thing?
562
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,760
We were referring to it as a vehicle, like to experience earth.
563
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,240
I'm like, how do you start this thing?
564
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:12,560
And that's when she said to swallow.
565
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:18,200
And then I'm like, and the second thing, I'll go over the physical manifestation, because
566
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,280
I was aware of my body from this point.
567
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:27,520
So once I swallowed, I took this huge gasp of air in and then it felt like a horse kick
568
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,800
to the inside of my chest as my heart started.
569
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,960
It hurts so bad, but not as bad as what happened next.
570
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,360
Because then once I did that, they were like, okay, now check your body.
571
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:39,360
Can you feel anything?
572
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,360
I'm like, I can't feel nothing.
573
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:41,960
I don't feel anything.
574
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,280
So they're like, you need to do a systems check and literally called it a systems check.
575
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,280
And I understood it.
576
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,000
Like there was parts of me that were like more of like the earthly conscious and the
577
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,400
spirit conscious.
578
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,760
And so I knew to move my energy, like starting at my feet.
579
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:59,440
And as I did that, literally everything, all my nerves came online.
580
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,120
Can you imagine like, like, you know how one year I hand falls asleep or you get that tingle
581
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,680
in your elbow amplified through your whole body.
582
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,880
It was the most horrendous pain I have ever felt more than my 27 hours of labor.
583
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,080
For real.
584
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,520
As those all like became alive again, and my body shook for a good 20 minutes.
585
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,320
I'm a medical assistant.
586
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:20,520
To me, I would call it shock.
587
00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:25,800
I don't know, but I literally shipped for 20 minutes after as I got back into my body.
588
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:30,560
That's the whole play out other than like I said, the conversations that I had.
589
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:36,320
But I remember there was like this test with my twin soul.
590
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:41,280
And I remember them telling me there would be a test, but I didn't remember parts of
591
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:42,280
this test.
592
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:47,040
Well, the next day he contacted me saying, you know, he's really sensitive of my energy.
593
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,160
If I'm wounded, if where I am, he's like, you weren't there.
594
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,160
You completely disappeared.
595
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,160
He's like, I thought you died.
596
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,400
He's like, and there was this whole thing.
597
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,480
He's like, I had to do some tests where I had to like, you had, I had a drink of your
598
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:04,840
body and you had to give of yourself in order to do this whole thing.
599
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,920
He had all these memories of it.
600
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,160
And I had different knowings of it.
601
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,240
So that I was like, holy shit, that really did happen kind of thing.
602
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:13,240
Like what?
603
00:34:13,240 --> 00:34:16,680
And then my other friend called me and she's like, yeah, she's like, I had this whole
604
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,640
vision and I was over your bed and you were laying dead in it.
605
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:20,640
It's like what happened.
606
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,320
And I'm like, oh my God, you know, so I knew, you know, that this had really happened.
607
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,240
I thought I had a question of it because I physically felt it, but you know, it just
608
00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:29,240
cemented it.
609
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:34,160
And, and I was really, really, that one took a long time.
610
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,960
I noticed the progression through my NTEs, it took longer, longer to integrate and it
611
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:43,280
was more traumatic in the sense of it's like the more you have to lose, the more traumatic
612
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:44,280
it is.
613
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,720
Like, you know, when I was little, I had not, you know, I hadn't lived a life.
614
00:34:46,720 --> 00:34:52,320
I didn't, it didn't affect the ripple of my existence.
615
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,640
What the longer you live, the more souls and then more life past the effect.
616
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:03,000
So the more your choices, whether to stay or go or things you do affect that ripple,
617
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:04,000
you know?
618
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:11,080
So I was like, it was more profound that, you know, I had had that experience.
619
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,640
How long do you think you'd stop breathing for?
620
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:18,640
Well, the urgency that like my body wouldn't last much longer than I had to get in it tells
621
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,520
me it had to be a while.
622
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:27,040
And the fact that I remember my jaw being wide open, I remember my mouth being so dry
623
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,960
and all of those things that, that's kind of traumatic for me to remember because that's
624
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:35,560
my mother, when I found her dead was like that, you know, so it very much triggered that
625
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,360
memory like kind of creeps me.
626
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:45,240
So I knew I had possibly been gone a while, especially how much it hurt to try to bring
627
00:35:45,240 --> 00:35:46,240
it.
628
00:35:46,240 --> 00:35:48,800
Well, yeah, and that's what I was thinking about.
629
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:54,160
I mean, it almost sounded like you had been electrocuted or something, the kind of pain
630
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,560
and sort of zapping nerve pain that you were having.
631
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,560
But I think that...
632
00:35:58,560 --> 00:35:59,560
It was systemic.
633
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,560
It was, yeah.
634
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:08,240
And I think that the moment that someone stops breathing, their heart stops, whatever, the
635
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:11,440
body, the physical body starts degrading.
636
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:17,600
So it would make sense that if you felt like you were gone for a while in physical terms,
637
00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:23,800
that there would have to be something to go through as far as, I hate to call it a jump-starting
638
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:28,400
because it wasn't only jump-starting your body, but if there had been even a, even a
639
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:33,360
few minutes of degradation, you have to overcome that.
640
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,600
I think that's why I was so capable.
641
00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:37,000
Well, yeah.
642
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,360
And pain is very normal for that kind of thing.
643
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:45,200
I mean, I've interviewed people that have been gone for, you know, pretty much documented
644
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:48,640
for 45 minutes, hour and a half.
645
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,840
Wow, it's rough coming back after that kind of thing.
646
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:53,840
Bodies in bad shape.
647
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,720
Of course, it was in bad shape to get them to get them dead in the first place, but then
648
00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:03,680
the longer it goes on, the harder it is to come back.
649
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:09,560
We have a whole bunch more to talk about with Lorelai, including her experience in the void,
650
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,960
in fact, a dark void and a light void.
651
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,480
So we're going to go ahead and separate this into two parts.
652
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,360
Part two will be coming out later this week.
653
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:25,320
If you want to be alerted to any time that part two or any other new episodes come out,
654
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:29,720
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655
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Until then, I wish you every good thing that you're looking for in this life and the next.
