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Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death everybody and part two of our interview with Lorelai
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Drock. In part one we talked about her first few near-death experiences and we're going to take it
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beyond that today and talk about the void, other things that she experienced and a lot of things
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that we can both learn. If you haven't heard part one yet I recommend starting there. That's the
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last episode so episode number 449. Okay let's jump right back into it. From the time that they
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pronounced me death was a good 45 minutes. They cut my clothes and then they paddled my
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heart, my heart had stopped and I could see people screaming and crying but I didn't realize that was
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actually my physical body because I was somewhere else. The only thing that I could feel if you could
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imagine absolute love and peace there wasn't anything else to be felt. I was greeted by people
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I'd known in the past. I'm back home again. Incredibly safe and felt at home.
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Last experience we're going to talk about here you had an experience with the void and I give
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people mentioning the void to me all the time. Not everybody experiences it but some do and I hear
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it explained in different ways. So tell me about your experience and then let's talk a little bit
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more about it. Well this one I had inadvertently ingested something with modesty and gluten
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weight and I'm highly sensitive so if you know people with those kinds of sensitivities it does
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trigger some kind of like those autonomic nervous type issues and so once again I start
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my sleep. I've been tested for apnea I don't have it but I stopped breathing in my sleep
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and I was in this black velvety void that seemed to go on for an expanse of forever and it kind of
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reminded me of like being in the loom to be honest you know like how that might seal and I remember
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being shocked because I was like I'm here why am I here you know why what's going on like there's no
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way I can have another you know I can't be dead again you know like I thought we were done with
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this I did what you said you know I agreed to come back to be of service I forgot to say that with
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my fourth experience I knew what was coming in and I even said no I want to get back to my body get
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me back in there now I work too many lifetimes to get to what we're going to experience so I thought
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I was done you know I done everything else I was kind of shocked at a little I agree I'm like why am
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I here what's going on I've learnt everything and um kind of probably some ego playing in there like
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and I'm like where's my body and the same thing kind of happened over again as far as getting into
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my body this time my heart hit like eight times it felt yeah yeah yeah yeah but it was not as
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painful as the first so I know I wasn't gone as long but I remember asking these things and why
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I was I was here and I had this huge I'm still integrating this because this was just December
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of this past year but I remember it was pivotal in the sense that it was the direct opposite of
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my first experience there was still love there and there was still nurturing but not amplified it
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was like you know being in this darkness but I felt this and I connected to consciousness and I
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felt this extreme loneliness like I understood for the first time in my being why we were created
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like why that consciousness that source was so compelled to make life because it was sentient
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in conscious energy frequency light and had all these creations and ideas and you imagine having
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eternity with all this awareness and knowing and absolutely nothing to share it with or anything to
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interact with just this just to I it's just like that love I can't explain this as well as I would
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like to so I understood why I was having this experience why I was alive and what I was helping
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doing it was like this huge symbiotic love like that consciousness got to experience everything
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there was through me but me as a collective I could see itself and everything I understood that we
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were like a mirror of this this conscious energy source of God whatever you would like to label
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to create and expand from like we were just all these little fuck does of light from this same
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thing but it showed me like how he created the first and then they could interact and that one
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was like you know there's nobody here completely understands me and that that one fractalized and
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all these creations came from this conscious need to be understood to be loved to have something
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outside of ourself to truly see ourselves and so this depth of that loneliness prior to you
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and why it was created was very profound for me but as I was leaving this particular experience
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you know how I had the booming voice in the beginning this was a female voice that I can't
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say I can connect with anything that was very loud as I was coming back that said there's only death
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because you believe in it or you continue to believe in it the you felt like a collective you
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like you know how we're all fractals of the one at least from my experiences I won't claim it for
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anyone else through that I understood like two things I kept creating death experience because
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I felt like that was the only way like people think going to heaven and dying is the only way
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you can connect with this love this source and that is not true and I kept creating these experiences
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to go home to feel that complete detachment that freedom when you can have it here but anytime
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I got too caught up in my story or my story felt too out of control I would go home and also I
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understood that I was the one creating the veil from like in my first death experience they had
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given me the understanding like the caterpillar story I told my mother that we were there in the
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caterpillar stage of soul you know like human evolution through my other ones they're like
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it's the chrysalis moment where your DNA is all being rearranged to take flight we're headed
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towards light bodies and more conscious loving awareness in that higher frequency of consciousness
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so I just understood all of these things and because those frequencies when somebody passes
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they're at a higher state of frequency they lost the density that creates their physical body we
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were creating that that veil that separates us like you know how I said I am able to connect with
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spirits animals trees people that have passed all of these things they have consciousness including
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our body one of my experiences that like our body also has these energetic agreements with these
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organs and they're their own consciousness choosing to have this energetic agreement to be our physical
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body so they have voices and consciousness and needs as well so my understanding through all of this
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was like my beliefs and the things that I had created were the only thing separating me from
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spirit from my loved ones everything because in my mind they had died just because they changed for
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when they were still all around me and trying to communicate but I couldn't recognize it so
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they were just saying like we keep creating death in part to have new experiences but
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but it is a belief just like heaven hell all those other things they're beliefs that
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that had been built upon so anyway that was that was that experience so do we need a different term
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for death some kind of a term for when our physical body stops working I call it transcendence to be
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honest the closest thing I can say is you know you trans transcend your physical vessel
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and you become more light and energy you're still conscious still same personality going and doing
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and living different things but there is no death in that sense conscious energy energy cannot be
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created you know cannot be destroyed so that that carries on I asked you earlier to try to figure out
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now that you've had a lot of time to think about it about the male voice that you heard to be fair
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tell me a little bit about the female voice was it this big booming here's what you have to do kind
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of experience or necessary booming but it was very like and almost all like in a loving way like
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you silly girl you know how to read like that kind of entonement like almost exasperated like are
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we done yet you realize you keep creating this eat no kind of thing well you're a parent don't you do
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that with your kids sometimes yes it felt very maternal ever since I was a small child I've had
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a Mary Magdalene type energy and and visitation of that kind of energy and in between my fourth and
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fifth no my third and fourth 2019 I had this huge profound experience with a being known as
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Yeshua you told me not to call Jesus he said Yeshua that was probably more profound than my
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NDS almost anyway um so like to me I understand like it felt more like those kind of parental
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motherly beings if there were to be a label I mean that's the more Christian label to me they go
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by many names as they say but it's the same energy I promise that we would talk a little bit more
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about the void this is something that I don't totally get it's not something that I find in
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religious scripture in places like that doesn't mean it doesn't exist I've had it described to me
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as a very dark place where there's like nothing also described as this dark place where there's
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everything and there's life and I believe you mentioned feeling lonely but also love and nurturing
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take me down that path try to explain that a little bit more well my understanding of this
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particular point I'm not saying they're all the same yeah they may be different for my understanding
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is is there there there is various you know places like like when I go to what I call the white void
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is one like the quantum space where everything's created and all knowledge is there at once that's
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a different void this particular one I understood to be outside of the whole creation see my
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understanding is heaven hell you know whatever labels you want to put and all of these different
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levels and sub levels of all of this are part of that whole creation that we have created and
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have created where this particular void was like outside of that it was outside of all outside of
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creation in that sense if I can say it like that so that in itself was very I don't want to say
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I don't like the witch drama at all but it was very surreal to me like okay because it was almost
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like looking back on creation itself I felt saved it seemed to go on forever but I didn't sense anything
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there you know other than this presence of consciousness do you feel like it's a temporary state
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possibly you know my kids had me watch the show Supernatural and I never had but do you know how
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I don't know if you've ever seen it but maybe your audience has where they send these angels
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to this place they don't reincarnate they don't do anything they go to rest in this place this
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just like this black void right um sort of and it kind of to me it was like that like it was outside
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of creation it was outside everything and we're like spirit just goes to be to be at rest literal
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rest we're like other areas of this whole creation you know spirits are being guides or they're
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continuing to work on something or having other experiences here is like rest it's just that
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eternal peace like if you want to go to rest not reincarnate now watch a like you can rest with
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sorts and that's kind of what this void felt like to me but it sounds kind of like a place where
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you don't progress either yeah I think it's kind of like if you've if you've fulfilled you know like
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you as a soul at least my understanding can decide when you think you've like fulfilled everything
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you want to experience and I think it's also kind of like the womb where it is and uh it
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internally rest where you're not having any experiences where you're just waiting for the
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next experience so I don't know if it's an eternal rest but it feels like a rest well and you've
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mentioned earlier this super bright light arch and then of course in this void this black
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velvety sort of dark place why do you think they were so opposite what was the purpose of that
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because it doesn't sound like one was good and one was bad no they weren't and that's
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just human judgment and spirit to me they always show me everything has its purpose
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to take you to the next level the next understanding so for me I think there are so many I call it layers
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of truth and experience and things that have been created I think that's why even the lamb
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commonalities these experiences are all different I've had five and each one was completely different
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I went to a completely different place and not because I was being judged or not worthy of this
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or that there was no judgment in any of these other than like I said you know uh my spirit team
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going you know at your level light you should know better stop you almost killed yourself off and you
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got stuff to do so to me all of this we've created in one form or another they show me
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literally like a roll of decks we're constantly making choices and picking different timelines
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by those choices of what we want to experience in deja vu and like now it used to be deja vu now
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it's just I see like the number 19 like that always tells me I'm on the path that I chose 19 is my path
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so there's always those signs that I'm I'm staying with the choices I had planned and experiences
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and I did have a profound experience with Archangel Michael that helped me understand this a little bit
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um I was very upset about a few years ago because some of my health issues had revisited me
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and I had already made the agreement to be of service so I was like you know if you want me to
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continue to be a service you need to heal this physical vessel you know like you you know I agree
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to do this I'm doing what I said you know I can't do what you asked me to do and you know this keeps
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breaking down kind of saying I was very angry I think I was swearing I'm not even sure to be honest
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and I literally was taken out of body and he said I can't remove what you've already pulled into your
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experience I can only ease your attachment to it so it moves through your experience faster
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and that gave this whole line of remembrance that he showed me you know because sometimes we plan
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certain things or oh we plan an illness but how deeply we attach to it is how much it plays out
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in our experience you know he showed me like whether you have a sniffle or pneumonia is how much you
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feed it you know if you get in this whole fear thing and like how much you feed into it and I
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realized like yep I was back to feeding being sick which I had left behind many years ago to be
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clear like 8 10 there's almost 10 years ago now I was completely almost completely bedridden
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could still get to the store but I mean I was very weak I found out a severely anemic and my
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liver and kidneys were shutting down they're at the beginning stages of failure and I saw this mean
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like what thought are you feeding and I realized I was feeding sick and from that point on I completely
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flipped the switch I stopped chasing all the experts and studying all my supposed 16-auto
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immune and comorbidity diagnosis and I just chose I chose differently and I switched and I'm not
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saying there's anything wrong with Eastern Western matter and even those things I've been a part of
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both what I'm saying is is understanding those and that all choices I like that you know all the
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different things we plant how how much we choose to experience of that experience that's where the
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free will plays in like how deeply you want to experience things that you had put on your path
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all right before we wrap up just a couple of quick things because we've covered so much
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territory today you need some kind of spiritual frequent flyer miles or something for all of
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all of this that you've been through in places that you've been and seen but first of all what's
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your level of fear of death oh I have no fear of death itself my only thing that I still have you
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know like anxiety about is like you know everybody wonders how it's going to happen or like the whole
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part of suffering first or any of those things I was removed before there was any like major
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suffering so I trust that will happen again I joke sometimes that I have more of fear of living
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than I do of dying you mentioned that you learned a lot of why uh that this stuff happened
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can you just wrap up with a message for our listeners that they can learn from a lot of
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the things that you've been through part of my fourth experience and things that I have
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learned since is emotions how we deal with them how we react with them everything that frequency
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of thought emotion and attention creates everything if you don't deal with emotions
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in the moment they battle up they literally encapsulate in various parts of your body as
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medical intuitive I can tell you this so the key thing spirit always tells me is to deal with your
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emotions authentically in the moment if so you know if you need a minute to breathe fine but you
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need to express yourself your emotions and not let them become an entity of themselves which can
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happen sometimes like outside of yourself because it's such a strong emotion with traumas or within
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yourself where it encapsulizes and eventually causes dis-ease emotion is the key creator the power of
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words was all part of my fourth experience because words hold frequency and all the energy that we've
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ever fed that particular word so think how often people have fed the word sick even the western
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vocabulary the majority of it carries a negative frequency so be mindful of all of that big like
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how you speak to yourself how you speak to your body how you speak to others because you are
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creating your reality and every now moment with what you're choosing when you do so and I think
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if people were more aware of all of that and trying to be more authentic in your emotions and your
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expression in the world you wear our own worst judge so stop judging yourself and how you perceive
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others are going to see you because I have found the more authentic you are the more you can accept
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love because if you're not being authentic you cannot truly love yourself so you'll never until
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you do that you don't feel love from others because you don't accept it because you already know that
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you are putting on a mask and not being your authentic stuff so there's a lot of that going on
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for people to find healing or align with their highest frequency however you want to put these
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things that authenticity and also to respect sovereignty we throw labels that people and
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expectations because of those labels when you think mom think of how many things you expect a mother
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to be and you judge everything off of that expectation and they're human just like you having
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experiences emotions they don't know what to do with I think overall that is the best I can leave
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anyone as a thought to think on because that no matter whatever level of spiritual awareness you have
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can change everything and you know to keep your mind open that anything literally is possible
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we are limitless creator beings and the more you try to box yourself in more suffering chaos you
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create because I've seen it in my experience with the ashok he showed me all how we're creating that
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suffering and chaos within ourselves and that accountability responsibility that we're the
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ones actually creating it when you take that accountability that's when you can see great change
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sounds good if anyone wants to reach out to Laura lie your website will be on the show notes and
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thank you so much Laura live for being with me today thank you so much for having me it was
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really fun to have a conversation with you that and I hope I can impart some some of the things
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I've learned through my experiences thanks again for listening and sharing this podcast don't forget
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