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Welcome, welcome back to Round Trip Death and part two of our conversation with Alissa
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Rushton.
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If you haven't yet heard part one that came out earlier this week, it's episode number
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455, and I'd recommend starting there.
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Today in part two, we're going to discuss what it's like to be, quote, slammed back
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into your body.
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Guardian angels and a whole lot more.
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So let's get right to it.
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The time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes.
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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.
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And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my
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physical body because I was somewhere else.
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The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't
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anything else to be felt.
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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.
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I went back home again.
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Incredibly safe and felt at home.
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I want to come back to one word that you mentioned a few minutes ago.
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That is that you were slammed back into your body.
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To me, some of those kinds of correlations with other NDE stories just make them more
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real.
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That is a term I hear a lot.
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It's usually not a, oh, just nicely came back into your body.
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That doesn't happen.
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I hear slammed probably the most.
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I hear things like, wait a minute, I can't fit back in that body.
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I am this huge part of the universe now.
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You want me to fit back in that little human suit thing.
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And so you had a lot of that feeling too, it looks like.
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Oh my gosh.
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Absolutely.
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I mean, it's like, you know what it's like.
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Have you ever bought a bed in a box, one of those foam beds in the boxes?
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Yeah.
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And when you open that up, you're never going to get it back in.
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Nope.
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Not at all.
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It doesn't belong in there in the first place.
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Right?
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And you have to shrink wrap it so tight to even get it in there.
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That's exactly where this huge, expansive consciousness and we're, it's a huge vibrational
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difference as well.
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So it's taking something really big and then lowering the frequency of it to get it back
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in the body.
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And the frequency of our density is low.
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We are in a low dense band and that's how we are physical matter.
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Because when we're in a higher band of frequency, you start to not have matter.
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Everyone can get this with the ice analogy.
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Right?
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Water is liquid and it can be very big.
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If I solidify it, now it's an ice block.
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But if I heat it up, all of a sudden it's vapor.
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It's the same substance.
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It just changes form.
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And that's what happens with us.
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Our consciousness is like water here on planet Earth.
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It's like ice.
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It's dense.
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It's clunky.
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It's, you know, it's crunchy to be down here.
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I always call it crunchy energy.
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It's not an easy journey.
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It's a master path and it's a third grade path.
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Right?
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It's not the right one.
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We're learning.
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We're trying to master ourselves and we're learning mastery lessons.
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But also like we're still very juvenile in many ways and not emotionally intelligent.
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And so we're learning all that.
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But it's very icy down here.
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Very crunchy ice.
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But on the other side, you're vapor.
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You know, you can go anywhere.
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Your little particles can go anywhere.
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And I think people can just get that analogy.
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But it is so different being in a body here.
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Absolutely.
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And even science can prove that.
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The speed of the molecules when it forms in ice, they slow way, way, way down.
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That's the frequency you're talking about.
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Get to water.
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They've sped up.
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Get to vapor.
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They've sped up.
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I don't know what's beyond that, but there's probably a whole other level of that.
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Love it.
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How long did it take the EMTs to get to you?
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How long do you think you were gone from your body?
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It's a great question.
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The only thing I can tell you is I lived in the country.
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And so the fastest medical team probably would have taken about 15 minutes to get to me once
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the phone call was made.
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And I don't know how long I was out by the time Bradford found me long enough for me
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to be in pretty bad state.
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So I'm going to say at least 20 minutes.
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And it could have been quite a bit longer.
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It could have been.
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And most doctors would say, you don't have oxygen to your brain for six minutes.
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You're going to have all this permanent damage.
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So how did you deal with that?
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Well, when I came back the following day, so after I had been resuscitated, after I
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was given a second dose of Narcan in the ambulance because the first dose wasn't cutting it,
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so I passed again in the ambulance.
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And I woke up in the hospital.
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And then the very next day, I actually did think, oh boy, I have brain damage because
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I was hearing a voice on repeat that was not my own.
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And I didn't learn until years later whose voice it was.
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It was a man.
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And I heard his voice and I was like, oh my gosh, that's the guy that was telling me this
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phrase on repeat.
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So the next day, I was still so sick.
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The next day, I was back infusing because I would go and infuse the pick line and do
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the whole protocol for six hours a day, the whole chemotherapy protocol.
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So the next day after my near death, they had me right back at it.
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And I remember sitting in the chair and this man was saying, I'm getting better and better
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every day and every way.
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And it just was on repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat.
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I couldn't stop it.
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And I literally thought, oh God, I really might have some drain damage.
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And then I learned years later, it was Emile Couillet, the father of affirmations.
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I heard the voice and that was in my head singing me the song.
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I'm getting better and better every day and every way.
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But I did.
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I thought I had brain damage.
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I was all of a sudden had all of these gifts that came online.
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I had, you know, claircelience and clairgustence and all of these clairaudience and clairvoyance
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that I didn't have before.
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And all of a sudden, I had these things and my husband thought I was crazy except for
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the fact that I could prove it.
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And I had enough of that come through to where, you know, one example was we were backing
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out of the driveway.
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I still couldn't drive.
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And we had a very long country road driveway and we were just backing out.
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And I said, you have to be careful, honey.
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There's a handicap driver that's going to come and he's going to come exactly at the
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same time you're backing out and you're not going to see him when we're going to hit.
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And he's like, woman, what are you talking about?
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You're crazy.
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Yeah, you're crazy.
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And though he was a smart man and slowed down.
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And so as he was coming out of the driveway and slowed down, he saw this driver and he
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looked and he saw, he made a note and he's like, how did you know the handicap plate?
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And I said, I could just see it happening.
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And so we had enough of those moments where he was like, well, I don't necessarily believe
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in this stuff, but I can see that it's happening.
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Do you mind if I ask right now and I will edit this out if you're uncomfortable with
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it?
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What happened to your marriage?
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Because a lot of marriages break up after an NDE.
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Yeah.
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Well, thank you for asking.
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I'm actually, you're welcome to leave this here.
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We did divorce and I do want to go on record and say that we had a great love.
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We were together for 20 years.
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And though what happens, at least what happened to me is I, in that near death experience,
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broke into a million pieces, a billion, a trillion pieces.
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I broke into the universe and I came back together and I realized my life was broken.
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I realized that everything I was trying to do to heal myself was not working for me.
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In fact, it was killing me.
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And then I had to go about putting myself back together.
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And when I put myself back together, I was Kintsugi-ing myself.
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In Japanese, there's the art of Kintsugi, where we take the broken vase and we put the
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gold and we make something beautiful out of it.
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And so I was in the process of Kintsugi-ing myself.
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And I came out a different shape.
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My vase was no longer the shape that my husband fell in love with.
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At one point in time, I mean, I was a smoker and a drinker and an overeater and not wanting
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to be healthy.
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And he didn't break into a million pieces and he wanted to still do those things.
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And I didn't.
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He was happy to watch TV and I couldn't sit in front of the box anymore.
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I literally could not consume TV.
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I couldn't stand the smell of alcohol.
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I couldn't stand the smell of cigarettes.
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Those things about me really changed and I had to stop doing those things.
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Now it didn't happen for me overnight, but it did happen.
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And so our marriage didn't end overnight, but it did end.
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But it ended with as much love as we had for each other.
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And I tell you, I wouldn't have made it through that time without him.
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He's an incredible human being and I'm super grateful for him.
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But I do understand why marriages break up because it's such an expansion.
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And then you have to reconfigure your life in every possible way.
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There was no part of my life that was left untouched.
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I literally had to reconfigure everything about myself and I look different.
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I physically look different.
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My eyes are a more clear, different color.
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My face shape's a little different.
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I have so many different parts about me that is really curious, but I understand that's
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because of the process of Kintsugi.
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Most marriages that do break up after an NDE, it happens pretty quick within a year or two.
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So that's interesting that yours took more time.
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That very unfortunately very common because you do come back a very different person in
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so many ways.
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Yeah.
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And your husband was, yeah, you're not who he married.
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Even if you're a better version of that, still a different person, I get it.
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And not just the clairvoyant stuff, right?
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You weren't just a crazy don't back out into the road.
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Right.
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But you say unfortunately, but really what I learned on the other side is we have a funky
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notion here about a lot of things.
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As humans, we've been having these programs like, oh, you need to stay with this person
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forever because you've signed a piece of paper that said you would when we actually come
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in with sole contracts and sole agreements.
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And we complete those sole agreements.
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We complete our lessons with somebody.
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And so it's really not unfortunate because in our case, I mean, he went on to get remarried.
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He always wanted to have a couple kids and now he does.
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Like now he's learning other things and getting to have these beautiful experiences and need
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to.
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And so we, I think we have this idea that we're locked into certain things, but really we're
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here for growth and expansion and to learn lessons and the fundamental lessons of unconditional
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love, forgiveness, understanding that we really are all connected and being able to hold the
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consciousness of that.
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Those are the lessons that we have to learn here or else we don't get to go on to other
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destinations.
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We get to keep coming back here again and again and again and again and again until we learn
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those key basic lessons because on the other side, you instantly manifest, you instantly
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create.
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And so on the other side, if you're thinking bad thoughts about people, well, guess what?
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You accidentally create a whole bunch of not awesome stuff very quickly.
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So here we're learning to manage our emotions and balance ourselves and not maybe miscreate
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and time space is a little more generous with us so that we can understand that I have a
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fear thought and it's a few weeks before that fear thought comes in.
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It's more gentle for us because on the other side, you have a fear thought and you instantly
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create the fear thought.
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Hey everybody, very quick break here.
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All right, now back to Alyssa.
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Tell me a little bit about your healing process, your physical healing after you came back.
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You had a long ways to go.
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I had a long ways to go and people always remark at the weight first because I lost about
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120 pounds and kept it off, but it was more than that.
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I was so sick and diseased on the inside and I literally threw everything I had at it.
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I hired every healer that I could.
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I had a beautiful nutrition and health coach, her name was Shelly Murray, and I saw this
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sparkle and dazzle in her eyes and I thought, whatever she's doing, I want that and I'm
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going to do anything she tells me to do.
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She talked to me about my food and I didn't realize that what I put in my vehicle had
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any effect on my vehicle, which is silly because if you put sugar water in your gas tank of
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your car, you know that's not going to work out well, but I was putting sugar water in
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the gas tank of my car.
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I had to change all that and I started juicing and I started drinking smoothies and detoxing
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my liver and I also enrolled myself into an outpatient mental health program because
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I was depressed.
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When I came back, I literally was dissociated with my identity and I had, you know, on the
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other side, I was not Alyssa anymore and I came back and I didn't even, when they woke
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me up on the toilet, I didn't even know my name.
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I had no idea of what my name was.
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And so I felt very depressed and I had to go and do the mental health work of healing
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the trauma and all of the embedded trauma programs that are in our physical bodies from myself
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that I had experienced here in this now time, but my parents and my parents' parents and
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their parents and I just went in and started using some of the tools that I learned.
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I learned on the other side that there are certain frequencies that if you listen to,
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can help put your body into a state of repair and reprogramming.
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And so I literally at the time went just, I couldn't really walk.
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You know, I had the walker to get around, but walking was not a thing for me.
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So I literally would lay in bed and there was a meditation I highly recommend, her name
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is Kelly Howell.
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And it's called healing, healing meditation.
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And I would just listen to her healing meditation with these frequencies in it.
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And I would envision myself as being able to walk and being happy in my life.
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And that was all I could do at the time and just trying to eat better and you know, that
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sort of thing.
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And then pretty soon, it wasn't long before I had enough strength and energy to get out
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with my walker and do a lap around my house and then get out from my driveway and maybe
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go down a couple of houses.
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So it was a gradual evolution of just adding, adding, adding, building, building, building,
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healing, healing, healing.
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And it took me about five years.
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I was on 28 different medications, including a large amount of end of life pain medications
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that they only give you because it's so addictive.
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They know they'll never get you off of it.
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And so I got myself off of that myself.
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I didn't go to a like drug rehabilitation clinic.
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I just did the inner work and I, you know, the reason why somebody has that much pain
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is at the end of the day, an emotional issue.
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It's easier for the body to feel physical pain than it is for the body to feel emotional
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pain for most people.
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And so that pain expresses itself through the body.
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And so I was drug seeking in fact, and I wanted the drugs to numb the pain.
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So I then had to go and do the work to feel my feelings, to deal with the pain and the
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trauma so that it could express and run through and not stagnate in my body.
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And once I started doing that, I then started backing off the drugs and backing off the
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drugs.
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And it took me about five years to get off everything if you can believe it.
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Yeah, I believe it.
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They're super addictive.
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Okay, just a couple more questions that I'm going to let you go.
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You mentioned angels a few minutes ago.
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Tell me about what you know about angels.
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Oh, well, I have had profound experiences with my angels in my lifetime and still do
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angels believe in your free will and angels will not come in typically unless there's
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a life or death situation.
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They have to be invited in and they are wonderful beings.
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And I encourage everybody to talk to your angels, invite them to work on your behalf.
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We have a whole host of other energies and frequencies and light beings, angels being
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one of them, ascended masters and other other races like Pleiadians and others that are
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here to help you.
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It's just that they're high level beings and they will not break your free will.
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So they're not going to come and show up and talk to you unless you say, angels, I could
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you really use some help?
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In fact, here's something that I do that just works like magic.
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Every day I say, angels, please go before me and pave the way for my day with magic
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miracles and safety at every step of the way.
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And I tell you, I do this and it is it's magic, it's miracles, it's safety at every
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step of the way.
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I love to do this when I'm traveling and you'll feel their presence, especially when you invite
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them in because what you're doing in that moment is you're lifting your consciousness
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and they can then come and support you.
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But again, they will not break your free will only in times of life or death will they come
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in and it's usually your guardian angel that will come in and swoop in and rescue and be
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like, mm-mm, you're not dying today.
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Do you feel like you know who they are?
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In my case, absolutely I do.
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Okay.
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And I'm talking about like specifically, like this is great grandma Sue or something
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or is it just I have this wonderful angel.
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I don't know anything more about him, her, whatever.
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Well, I think this is a great question and it varies for everybody.
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First of all, I think that great grandma Sue is probably not angel status.
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If you're interfacing with great grandma Sue, you're interfacing with her astral realm energy.
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That said, you know, for me, Archangel Michael is who's always come to rescue me and my time
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of need.
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And I didn't even know who that was when I first interacted with Archangel Michael, but
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I very much the first interaction I was like, oh my God, that was Archangel Michael and
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I just knew it.
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And that was when I was 14.
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I think that some people are may know the names of their angels.
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Some may not.
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If you don't know, you can always ask.
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You can only say, who is this energy?
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Tell me who you are.
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And they will tell you.
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And I will also say if you're dealing with the astral realms and if you're not certain
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enough how to discern energies in the astral realm, anyone can tell you there anything.
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So what I, one of the things I teach in our Academy is to always ask when you're talking
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to your angels to say, I'm asking to speak to my highest, most light filled angel and
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light team.
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And so your intention is what connects you to that.
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And so that intention acts like a safety bubble around you versus I'd like to talk to spirits
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or I'd like to talk to angels.
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You don't necessarily know what you're going to get.
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So really setting your intention.
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I love to talk to my highest, most light filled angel and then feeling that frequency raise
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in yourself by getting into gratitude so that they can come and meet you.
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And you can have a conversation.
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You can have a dialogue.
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They can be there to support you.
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You can say angels like help me with my finances or angels help me with my relationships.
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They will, they're there for you always.
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And they're 24 seven.
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You know, they can work while you're not working.
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So I encourage people to always call on your angels because otherwise, you know, it's an
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untapped resource.
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How much fear of death do you have?
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This is an interesting question.
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Interestingly enough, the first when I came back none at all.
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And now I realize how precious this lifetime is.
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It is such a gift to be here on planet Earth.
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It's such a gift to get to come back and experience the beauty and the emotions and the physicality
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of it.
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So I notice now I have some, not the death itself, but like, I don't want to leave.
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It feels so precious and it feels so important, especially at this pivotal time we're having
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on the planet.
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We are literally in a massive consciousness shift.
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We're in a massive evolution.
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And it is, I believe, the reason why many of us chose to come back here at this time
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and to even come here at this time to play a role or to be a witness in this beautiful
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shift in human consciousness.
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I really value it and I would be lying if I said, oh, I don't have any fear because
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I really love being here.
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And it's such a blessing and many people don't know that.
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I appreciate the honesty.
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I'm going to give you the very last word here and that is for somebody who isn't feeling
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that, who is, life is too rough, right?
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What advice do you have or how can you lift them today?
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I love this question.
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Thank you, Eric.
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Well, the first thing is I've been right there myself where life is too rough and it feels
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all too much and I feel like I just don't want to be here anymore.
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And I think when we're feeling that way, that's a great indication that it's time to get some
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help outside of ourselves and to help us lift and do something different.
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That's your soul's way of saying we can get it back on course, but we have to do things
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differently.
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And so in terms of specific advice, maybe it's finding a spiritual mentor.
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Maybe it's like me, I started with that nutrition person who I just started shifting the molecules
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in my physical body and feeding myself a little different.
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I started doing different activities.
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I spent less time in front of the TV and more time reading books that lifted me up.
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Earth is a difficult place, but we can and do have the ability to shift it.
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And I think when we know that within us is the power to create heaven on earth or hell
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on earth, but the power lies within you and the power lies knowing that you can shift
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any circumstance.
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There's nothing special about me whatsoever.
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So literally if I can come back from the dead and heal my physical body, you can too.
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No matter what you're dealing with, you have the power within you.
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And I'd even go so far to say is that God is you and you are God.
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You have this ability to tap into energy that is stronger than anything you've ever been
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taught.
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And mostly it's just about having some support to tap into that and really recognize that
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you can change your life.
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And I want to leave you with this.
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You know how waves work?
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So if the wave is really big, it also goes very low.
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It's physics.
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What comes up must go down.
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What goes down must go up.
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So if you're in the down, what I want you to remember is the potential for your up is
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huge.
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Your suck moment in life can absolutely be the rocket fuel for your best life.
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And I'm here to tell you that only you have the power to use it.
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Alissa, I've thoroughly enjoyed this hour.
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Thank you so much.
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Oh my gosh, Eric.
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Thank you so much for having me.
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I so appreciate it.
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