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Feb. 19, 2024

Sharon's NDE: "It's Like Looking at the Universe... In His Eyes"

Sharon's NDE:
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Sharon Kumara had a brief near death experience as a child and a longer, more profound one as an adult.

In 2001, Sharon had a horrible accident falling out of the rear emergency exit of a bus, then her head was run over by a trailer. At that point she immediately popped out of her body and witnessed what was happening from about 20 feet obove.

In the spirit world she met her step father who let her know, "It's not your time." She entered a void of nothingness, then saw ancestors, then a bright, sun-like portal where she met Jesus. He took her on an unforgettable journey and she was "engulfed in light and love."

The most profound moment of the experience was looking into Jesus' blue eyes which was like "looking into the universe."

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From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes.

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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.

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And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my

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physical body because I was somewhere else.

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The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't

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anything else to be felt.

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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.

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I'm back home again.

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Incredibly safe and felt at home.

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Welcome to Roundtrip Death, everybody, and welcome to Sharon Kamara.

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How are you?

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I'm doing well.

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Thank you, Eric.

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It's an honor and a pleasure to be here.

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Oh, that's so nice of you.

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I want to hear about Oregon.

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I know you live out there and for people that haven't been there, man, is it beautiful?

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It is. It's gorgeous.

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We have pretty much everything you could ask for except for the warm water on the coast.

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But we have the coast.

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We have the mountains.

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We have the rivers, lakes, beautiful forests and the sand, of course, at the beach.

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It takes a little while to get used to the rain.

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I came back home.

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I was born and raised in Oregon until I was about 13.

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And then because of family divorce and everything like that, parents divorced.

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I moved around the South with my parents and moved back home about 18 years ago now.

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Yeah, I love it.

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Welcome back to the West.

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Yeah.

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A good place to be.

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So we're going to go clear back.

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You've had two near-death experiences.

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The first one is a child.

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And it's kind of interesting that you didn't remember this until after your second one.

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Can you explain that just a little bit? Because some people are going to go, oh, sure.

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You know, gee, if you don't remember it, is it even real?

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But I'll remind listeners, we've had a lot of people on the show that some didn't remember

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their experience for three days, for three years.

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There are things that can bring it back.

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So tell us a little bit about, you don't have to get into all the details, but tell

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us a little about the process that happened.

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Sure.

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Yeah.

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And then I was like, as an adult, I didn't remember most of my childhood anyway.

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And I always thought that was strange.

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Why is it I don't remember very much about, you know, being a kid?

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And my parents were worse when my sister and I were young.

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And there was a lot of moving around and things like that.

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And I remembered a little bit of that, but not much.

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We didn't live with either one of our parents there for a little while.

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We lived with my grandparents, and which is where a lot of things happened.

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And so after my near-death experience in 2001, the head injury, I ended up remembering that

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a little bit later after going into deep meditation.

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It started the, it was the beginning of my awakening and what my guys call my quickening,

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where I woke up to my soul, to who I really am and started having memories of my childhood.

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And that's how I remembered the experience as a childhood, the near-death experience

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in my childhood.

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And there's no one that can tell me it wasn't real because as I was going through these

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memories, because they just started happening for me, sometimes spontaneously, where I'd

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have to go into my room and sit with it because I remembered abuse as a child.

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That's why it was covered up and why it was repressed.

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And so the near-death experience when I was a child was during an experience where I was

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beat.

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And I felt the feeling of it was so peaceful and so full of love and peace when I left

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my body.

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There was, there isn't anyone that could tell me I was making that up because I didn't

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understand what that would be like as an adult, even in my life.

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I believe you, I wasn't trying to, I wasn't trying to give you a hard time, but it is

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interesting that some of these memories can come flooding back later.

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And I understand why with the trauma that you repressed it for such a long time, we're

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going to be focusing on your second NDE.

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That's the most, oh, I hate to say it's the most profound, but that's the one where there's

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a lot more detail.

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Is there anything that you remember seeing or doing or feeling in your first one that

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you would like to share?

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Sure.

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In the, in the first one, I ended up, when I left my body, I was in what I understand

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now was what is called, what I've heard people call the void.

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I didn't understand it at the time because it was a darkness, but it wasn't dark like

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we understand darkness.

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It was a nothingness, but more than it was, it was a supportive nothingness, a nothingness

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where everything I was there in a state of being able to expand and contract, expand

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and contract.

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Where I remembered myself as the little girl that I was, and also as the universe.

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It's difficult to describe, but as I'm floating in this nothingness and everythingness of what

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I've heard called the void and enjoying that, I don't know for how long, is when I was met

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by the same being that met me in 2001, who was who we know Jesus.

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I saw the light portal open up and he approached me and told me that, that I didn't have to

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go back, which was very different in 2001, where he told me it wasn't my time.

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But as a little girl, I was nine years old, he told me I didn't have to go back.

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I told him that I wanted to finish my job.

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I had that awareness.

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I didn't say job, I just told him I need to finish.

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I'm not finished.

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I just started basically.

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I needed to finish and he asked, are you sure?

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I said yes.

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That's when I was brought back to my body.

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In 2001, it was very different.

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Yeah.

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Isn't that interesting how mature a nine-year-old can be in that kind of a setting?

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Right?

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Because you probably weren't that mature in the toy store or whatever.

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Yeah.

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All right.

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Let's fast forward to 2001.

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I'm sorry.

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I don't mean to laugh.

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That's all right.

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You can laugh.

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It strikes me it's so funny.

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I've talked to a few people lately who had their NDEs after being hit by cars or trucks.

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I'm going to just spill some of the beans first before you get to it.

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Sharon fell out of the back of a bus and was run over by a trailer.

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Oh my gosh.

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Now that I've stolen your thunder, tell us what was going on.

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Where were you?

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How did this all happen?

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Okay.

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I was living in San Antonio, Texas.

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I was in my early 40s at the time and we went, my friends and I, my girlfriends and I decided

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to go intertubing down Guadalupe River in New Brafos, Texas.

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It was for my friend's birthday and we had a really good day on the river and we had

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been there quite a few times already.

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We enjoyed doing it.

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When we got on the shuttle bus to take us back to our cars, we got on the shuttle bus

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too for the shuttle bus to take us back to our cars so that we could go home for the

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day.

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It was around five o'clock.

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I was the first in our group, there was five of us.

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I was the first in the group to get on the bus when the shuttle bus pulled up and it

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was pulling a trailer with all of our ice chests and our inner tubes and everything.

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It was one of those little school buses.

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When I got on the bus, I saw that it was already full of people and it doesn't hold

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that many.

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It holds 13.

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It holds some of my occupancy, which includes the driver.

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I turned around to get back off, but there was a bunch of people behind me that wanted

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to get on.

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I ended up getting on.

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I thought, well, it's only a couple of miles, I guess.

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I'll go ahead and get on.

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I was the first one on.

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People also were on the bus saying, come on, get on.

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Come stand back here in the aisle way.

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I did.

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I was the first of our group to get on.

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I was in the back of the bus where the emergency door exit, that door was behind my back.

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As he was driving down the road, when it was a four on the floor kind of thing, one of

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those buses was Emmanuel Gehr.

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He was shifting through gears, which was jerking us back and forth.

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At one point, as he's shifting gears, moving away from a signal light, it jerked us so

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hard that I was throwing up against the back door and I fell out of the back of the bus

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at that point.

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This door just flew open all of a sudden when you hit it.

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Oh my gosh.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, it just flew open.

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Man.

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I remember thinking, everything just kind of was in slow motion.

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You know how people say time stopped kind of thing.

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It did.

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It was in slow motion.

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I remember thinking, I can't believe I'm falling out of this bus.

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Am I really falling out of this bus?

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Yeah, it doesn't happen every day.

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No, no.

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It's funny how our brain tries to process so quickly.

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This is a split second thing happening to you.

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Yeah, totally.

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So I bounced off the trailer hitch on my back onto the pavement underneath the trailer and

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I bounced again.

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I remember all the bounces.

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I bounced again onto my side and at that point, my head was right in line with the wheel

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of the trailer.

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And I knew in my mind that I was going to get run over because I yelled in my head just

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loud as could be, stop, you're killing me.

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And at that point is when the tire ran over my head, the back tire ran over my head.

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And that's when I popped out of my body.

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Wow.

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Yeah.

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I'm just curious, do you have any idea how far on the bus went before they realized and

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stopped and got you help?

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It was about a block or two.

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My friends told me afterwards that they were yelling at him and there was people talking

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and everything like that.

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Yeah, chaos.

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Yeah.

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And the people in the back knew I had fallen out like my friend that was standing in front

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of me.

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And it's a good thing I didn't grab her because my hands went out right away to try to grab

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something and she was five months pregnant.

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So good thing I didn't grab her and take her with me.

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People were yelling at him to stop and he finally did.

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It was about a block or two.

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So it wasn't too far.

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And we'll come back before we're done and talk about the physical injuries and some

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of your recovery if that's okay.

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But you popped out of your body immediately, you said.

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So tell me what happened next.

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Okay.

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So I'm floating above my body, looked to be maybe 20 feet or something like that, looking

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down and I see my body in the road.

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And I'm thinking, I mean, I recognize this body as my body, but I don't feel any attachment

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to it.

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I don't feel any pain.

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I feel peace.

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I feel that type of feeling.

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Okay.

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Well, that's my body.

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I know in my mind that I had died.

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I knew that what I was yelling about or what I thought was going to happen had happened

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because I knew that when that wheel was going to run over my head, I was going to die.

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And so I knew that I had died again because I knew at that moment in time, that point

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that I had done this many times before.

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So I didn't have any, I wasn't panicked anymore.

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I didn't feel any pain.

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Didn't feel any panic, any anxiety.

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What I was thinking was I felt bad for my friends because we had a really good day.

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And so I was lamenting that we had such a good day.

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And here I go and I was thinking here I go and die on them.

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That's really going to be a bummer.

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You just ruined their day.

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How dare you?

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I know, right?

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That's going to be a big bummer for them.

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My friends are going to want to celebrate their birthday and all that and everything, you

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know?

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And so I was thinking about that and felt bad.

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And also then I, my thoughts went to, oh, and I saw this commuter bus coming toward

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my body and I thought, I hope that bus doesn't run over my body because that would make a

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big mess.

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And so these thoughts are going through my head and, and I thought about my partner at

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the time and I was brought to him and I knew, I just knew that he would be okay.

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He, you know, he agreed for a while, but he would be okay.

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And then I thought about my sister who was very close and still very close to, and my

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thoughts went to her and I knew that she would grieve badly, but she would be all right too.

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She has her family, she has kids and has her family and her husband.

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And then I thought about my mom who I was really close to and she lived down the road

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from me and I kind of took care of her.

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And when I thought about my mom, I felt a presence behind me and my stepfather who had

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passed in three years earlier, who I was really close to was, was a big catalyst for me with

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my spiritual progress.

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I was raised Catholic and I was not a very good Catholic.

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My parents were good Catholics, but I, you know, I believed in higher power.

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I believed in, in God, not the judgmental God or anything like that.

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I didn't, I didn't want to go to church.

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I was not, when my grandmother used to make us go to church, when we lived with my grandmother,

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I would fight her.

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I feel bad now.

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I make her chase me around the house to get, because we went every day except Sunday, Saturday.

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So I didn't have a close relationship with Jesus or anything like that.

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I just knew that I probably had somebody watching out for me because I probably should have died

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before that many times because I was a partier.

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That was my life.

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I mean, I kept down a job.

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I had a good job and everything like that.

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But you know, I just kind of was doing that type of thing.

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My stepfather, I felt my, I turned around, turned around, took my attention off of the

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scene and saw my stepfather, who I missed pretty badly because we were really close.

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And he told me telepathically that it wasn't my time.

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And I was kind of confused and I told him that I wanted to stay.

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And at that point, I noticed a portal opening up to my right.

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Oh, he mentioned something about my mom and telepathically was sending me information about

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my mom that I was going, I needed, that she needed me.

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I was going to help her transition, those types of things.

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And we had a conversation about that.

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And then the portal starts opening.

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Before you move on, do you mind if I ask, were you feeling your stepfather or did you

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actually see him?

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And if so, can you describe him, what he was wearing, anything like that?

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I'd love more detail.

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Sure.

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Yes.

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I saw him.

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He was there with me and he looked like himself, except for he was younger and looked a lot

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healthier.

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He was, he was sick when he, when he passed, he had lung disease, but he was wearing these

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glasses, the dark, the horn room glasses, you know, the black frame glasses.

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And I used to make fun of him when I was a kid, when I was younger, because he would

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wear them when they weren't cool.

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And so, so I would say, dad, please, can you wear some wire room glasses?

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You look like a dork.

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And so when he shows himself to me in spirit, he's wearing those glasses.

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That's his signature.

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He looked like that.

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He's got that sense of humor.

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So that's what he looked like.

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Yeah.

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He was, I mean, he had similar clothes to what he was, what he wears here and slacks and

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like a tunic shirt.

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So not the white toga robes or anything like that.

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No, he wasn't wearing that.

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I don't get why he was wearing glasses.

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Was that just so you could identify him or do you think he actually needed them to see?

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No, he didn't need them to see.

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It was our joke.

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Gotcha.

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It was his communication to me.

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Yeah.

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Cause I was already communicating with him in ways after he passed.

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I started connecting and seeing him in the spirit world before my NDE a little while

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before.

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Okay.

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Cause he died in 98.

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Are you seeing anybody else or just him?

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At that point, I was only seeing him.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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So you mentioned this portal opens up.

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What was that like?

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Was it like a big cave?

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Was it, what was it like?

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It was a circular portal.

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I wouldn't call it a, well, I guess you could call it a cave, but I don't see the end of

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it, but I see people in it and it was a, like a blue gray that wasn't full of light, but

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I could see people in it.

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And I knew that they were my ancestors.

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I recognized my grandparents.

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I recognized some other people that I knew that had passed from this life, my ancestors.

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And there, there were ancestors in there that I wouldn't have recognized.

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I didn't recognize from this life, but I knew that were my ancestors and they were inside

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that portal and they weren't smiling and welcoming me home.

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They just had kind of a deadpan look on their face, but they were there.

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And I, and then I realized, I started realizing, okay, well, this doesn't look like a welcome

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home committee.

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Right.

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And so as that's going on, I'm feeling drawn toward the portal and another portal opens

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up beyond this portal and it's bright like the sun, yellow, white or golden white like

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the sun.

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And that starts expanding much larger than this other portal that I see.

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And as that expands, I'm drawn to that portal and within, I don't, you know, I don't know

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how to construct time there compared to here other than, you know, maybe a few seconds

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or something like that.

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I see a figure moving out of that portal very quickly moving toward me and he's, and it's

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a male and in white robes.

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And I recognize him has Jesus who I call Yeshua and he's moving very quickly toward

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me.

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And as I recognize him, I realize that I missed him terribly and I flew to him.

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I just flew to him.

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That is really cool.

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Were you able to embrace him?

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Yes.

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In time?

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Yes.

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Yes.

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I was able to embrace him and we had an exchange.

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We had in a telepathic exchange where within that exchange, he tells me it's not my time

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and I tell him I want to stay with him.

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And this is thought, transference.

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What I remember is his, I mean, completely without question are his eyes and his laugh,

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his chuckle and he laughs when I tell him I want to stay with you.

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And it's more of a, I understand kind of chuckle kind of laugh, that type of thing.

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And his eyes were, it was like looking at the universe in his eyes and yeah, it's hard

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to describe.

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Try.

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They were blue, okay?

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But a blue like we count don't, the colors are not like we understand blue.

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They were a deep blue and I see stars, I see light and love and a depth that I realize

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I'm seeing my soul too.

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He's reflecting me back into his eyes.

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And so there's an exchange there as he's holding me, he lifts my chin up so I can see his face.

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And that's when I see him and his face and his eyes and while we're exchanging that,

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I am engulfed in his, in light at that point.

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I'm engulfed in light and love and any of my thoughts of worries, thoughts of not wanting

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to return, thoughts of missing him, anything I would feel guilty about, any, any pains,

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anything was washed away, was cleansed in that light.

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And I, I was just one big smile, this huge smile.

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I had become part of him.

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He was a part of me.

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We were just one fully encompassing smile.

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And I know you might not be able to explain it anymore, but if possible, explain this

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engulfed in light and love.

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For those of us who haven't had it, what, how would you describe it?

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Yeah, I guess say you're immersed in a bath, water bath, and you become part of, you are

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the water, the water is flowing through you and you're all your cells are filled with

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love, everything.

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The light is tangible, it's intelligent.

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You are filled and surrounded with pure love.

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And I just remember saying, I mean, thank you.

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I mean, you're not thinking, you're just feeling, you feel completely surrounded, completely

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supported, completely loved beyond what we could ever imagine.

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That is awesome.

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Thank you for going through that.

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I know that wasn't easy.

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Is there a next?

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What happened after that?

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Yes.

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Oh, again, I don't know how long we were in that space.

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And I do feel that that happened to help me heal, to help my body heal, bringing back

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that light.

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At one point, I hear his voice again, pulling me back to the awareness is me as Sharon.

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And he asked me if I would like to go on a journey with him.

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Yeah.

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Right?

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You didn't have to think very long, did you?

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Yeah.

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But I guess they need our permission.

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And I'm like, sure.

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And so he puts his hand out, I take his hand.

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And as soon as I put my hand in his, which by the way, before I even go on to, well,

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you know that, I felt with my hand in his, I felt his hand was just so intense.

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I could feel every line in my hand, every crack and crevice, you know, like you feel

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a hand afterwards.

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And I'm thinking, it's like we have gloves on here over our senses, the sense of touch

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and everything we have.

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It's like we're wearing a big glove, you know, a barrier to the intenseness of our senses

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that we have in the higher planes.

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And so I was just intently aware of my hand in his and how his hand felt in mine.

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And then in an instant, we're flying through the cosmos.

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And I would say, or the cosmos is flying through us.

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I don't know which, but it felt like we were moving.

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And there's lights flying by us.

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I see a bright light off in the distance.

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And he's bringing these things to my attention as we're flying.

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And he has my hand.

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And I noticed that we're coming closer to a portal.

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The portal opens up and I see as we move through and we move through this portal, it's a blue

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portal.

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It's a bright blue, bright blue portal.

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As we move through this portal, I see a planet that is turquoise in color.

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Yeah, turquoise color, beautiful turquoise.

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And the colors just don't match what we, I mean, we don't have the right colors, the

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colors that match the colors that we can see in the other realms.

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And as we're moving down toward this planet, and as we move toward the planet, I recognize

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the planet as a water planet that is a home for me.

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But we stop and we're floating above the planet.

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I become acutely aware of the consciousness of the planet.

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And I begin to merge with the consciousness of the planet.

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And I feel like a mother energy from the planet, you know, like Mother Earth, that feminine,

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caretaking energy, sentient energy.

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And I'm merging with her and I'm merged with the consciousness of this planet, this body.

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Yeah, this body of water.

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And there's, when we dove in, there's a lot beneath the surface of the oceans.

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And I realize that I have immense love for every being, everything that's on the body,

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on my body as this planet.

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My goal is to take care of everything, of all parts of my planet and to be in support

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above everything that's on the planet.

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And I actually, and I have that same reciprocal love from the beings on the planet as well.

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It's a symbiotic relationship between me as the, as the planet and the beings.

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And I can move my awareness just like when I was in the void, I can move my awareness

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from the smallest sentient being on the planet to the, to the planet, you know, the wholeness

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of the planet to the smallest amoeba cell or whatever on the planet.

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I can move back and forth in that state.

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And then at some point I become, come back to the reality of me as Sharon and we dive

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down toward the planet and we dive into the water.

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And I am reunited with a aquatic family that I have there.

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And I have a mate, I have children, I have my ancestors there, I'm reunited with them.

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And that's pretty amazing.

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That part is ended up being very emotional for me when I would bring those memories back

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here because it was such a huge part of me because I've always been connected to the

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dolphins and the whales and you know, those top, and what we call mermaids and things

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like that all my life.

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And so, and so being taken back to that planet and being, meeting my family there was something

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he told me I can go there anytime in my meditations or when I'm back home, back home, but when

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I'm back on the planet of earth, I can go there anytime.

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And he told me when I finish my earth mission type of thing on earth, then I can take my

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focus there and be there for as long as I want.

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And it's, because we can move our focus wherever we want in our life, in these dimensional

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lifetimes, interdimensional lifetimes that we have, life experiences that we have.

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And this one he said that I can, I can stay there for as long as I want and be in that

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form.

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So at some point I remembered agreeing with him.

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I told him, okay, I will agree to go back, but you have to stay, you have to, you have

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to make sure that I know that you're with me throughout my lives right next to me and

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are, and are tangent or tangible in my life.

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So you're kind of bargaining with him a little bit.

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I did.

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00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,280
I'll do this for you if you'll do this for me.

471
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,280
I did.

472
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:33,280
I did.

473
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:34,280
Yeah.

474
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,200
And then I'm back in my body.

475
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:40,480
Do you remember what that was like going back into your body or you just woke up?

476
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,240
It was a thud.

477
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,240
It was a thud.

478
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,040
No, I don't remember going back.

479
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:52,640
I just remember being in my body and I did not remember those, that all of that until

480
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,560
a couple of years late.

481
00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:59,880
Well, I should say it came to me little by little because I started having out of body

482
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:05,520
experiences where I was flying to a sun, flying to a sun, trying to get there.

483
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:09,440
And I would come back to my body before I would get there or, and I was also having

484
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:15,880
out of body experiences where I was in, in a underwater, as a aquatic being, a myrotype

485
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:22,640
being, those things started happening, but I didn't put them together right away until

486
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:28,680
I was working with Yeshua, my mother, until my mother passed and she brought things into

487
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:34,040
my life from the spirit world that started putting the pieces of the puzzle together

488
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,640
as I began working with the actual and my meditations.

489
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,480
I made a commitment to be in my room every night at 9pm and so he could help me work

490
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,360
through a lot of things.

491
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,360
You mentioned myrrh and myrrh made a couple of times.

492
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,880
Do you want to expound on that a little bit?

493
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:50,880
That's what we looked like.

494
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:53,120
That's what we were like.

495
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,120
Yeah.

496
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,560
I mean, do you feel like that's kind of your origin or something you're going back to?

497
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:58,560
Or?

498
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,240
You know, that's a good question.

499
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:08,880
I, I feel that we have, our soul has many, many, many other planetary experiences that

500
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,160
that good, I mean, as much as I love earth, that goodness earth isn't the only experience

501
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:17,800
that we, you know, we have where I've learned and remembered.

502
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:24,840
And I feel like that one is a, I guess you could call it parallel and another dimension

503
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:32,520
or reality, another realm or something like that, where I can just move into that, that

504
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:36,480
planetary experience whenever it's probably going on now.

505
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:42,320
Wherever, you, I'm sure you've heard the theory or whatever that everything happens

506
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:43,320
at the same time.

507
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,640
It really isn't any linear time.

508
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,640
Yeah.

509
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,760
My brain hasn't quite wrapped around the fact that in the eternities, there's not really

510
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:52,760
time.

511
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:53,760
Right.

512
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,520
That doesn't mean everything's happening at the same time.

513
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:03,880
That doesn't really make sense to me at this point, but, but no time, no time does make

514
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,160
sense and nonlinear does make sense.

515
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:08,160
Right.

516
00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:09,160
Yeah.

517
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,120
That doesn't mean everything's happening at once.

518
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:12,120
Okay.

519
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:13,120
Yeah.

520
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:20,640
I see kind of see a time, I guess you could say, or experiences as cyclical on a, you

521
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,040
know, on a circle that way.

522
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:24,040
Yeah.

523
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,040
That makes more sense.

524
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,040
Okay.

525
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:27,040
Yeah.

526
00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:28,040
So it's happening.

527
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:31,440
There are things are happening, our experiences are happening and we can jump to any part of

528
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:35,440
the cycle, the circle that we want.

529
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:42,640
Now, some of them we can't change because they've, we've already experienced them perhaps, but

530
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:49,040
we can still go and experience it, but we can't add to it or subtract to it.

531
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,120
Maybe if that makes any sense.

532
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,920
Why do you think most of us can't remember any of this?

533
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:54,920
Yeah.

534
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:55,920
Good question.

535
00:31:55,920 --> 00:32:01,560
I believe that I kind of feel that the veil, the program, it's kind of been programmed

536
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,760
out of us.

537
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:11,240
And I feel that we, we are brought into this realm, this dense realm with that forgetfulness

538
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:15,600
because it might be too much for us to remember all at once.

539
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,120
I think definitely.

540
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,920
But the journey of remembering is, is part of the journey.

541
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:22,920
Yeah.

542
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:27,400
I think there's a lot of things that we couldn't learn if we remembered everything before we

543
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:28,400
got here.

544
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:29,400
Yeah.

545
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,720
We couldn't have the same kind of experience here.

546
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:32,720
Right.

547
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:37,240
You did mention earlier about, I forget how you put it, something about when you died

548
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,240
or left your body that you had done this many times before.

549
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,840
Did I get that right?

550
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,840
Yes.

551
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,960
And this is this really earth that we're talking about.

552
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,520
This is where this has happened before.

553
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:54,040
In other words, you feel like in these other realms before coming here, there was also

554
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,160
life and death and moving on to the next step.

555
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,160
Yeah.

556
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:59,160
Okay.

557
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,680
Do you want to expound on that at all?

558
00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:06,160
Well, yeah, I just felt like I, I mean, I knew that I have had other lives and I guess

559
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:13,680
you can call it past lives, other realities where I've lived out that experience and died

560
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:19,520
in, you know, was in a physical body and died in this realm and went on to plan another

561
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,480
lifetime, I guess you could say, plan another experience, whether it be on earth or other

562
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,240
planetary bodies.

563
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:31,400
I just, I just knew I had that awareness when that happened.

564
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:32,400
All right.

565
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:34,400
Tell me what kind of a recovery you had.

566
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:36,640
What your head was run over.

567
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,400
So I assume you had a traumatic brain injury.

568
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,400
Anything else?

569
00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:41,400
No, you didn't.

570
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,200
I didn't, I didn't even have a concussion.

571
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:44,200
Yeah.

572
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,000
You mentioned you felt like you were healed.

573
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:47,600
I, well, yes.

574
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:52,560
The embrace of Jesus was healing you and your body both.

575
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:53,560
Yeah.

576
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,600
My hair was falling out.

577
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:59,480
So tell me you didn't just get up and walk away and go, oh, that was different.

578
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:00,880
Well, I did get up.

579
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:04,200
I jumped up from the pavement.

580
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:09,040
I jumped up and I was in shock and I was pacing back and forth with my friends.

581
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:15,600
When the bus finally stopped, they came running back to help me and they, the driver called

582
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:21,520
an ambulance and they put me on a spine stabilizer.

583
00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,920
I was bleeding from the ear, but it wasn't a concussion.

584
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:25,920
They were worried about a concussion.

585
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:30,640
It was just my ear was the bottom part of my ear was torn off.

586
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,400
And so they glued it back together.

587
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:33,600
Luckily, not torn off.

588
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:34,600
It was hanging.

589
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,280
They glued it back together at the hospital.

590
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,200
I was in the hospital five hours.

591
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,000
X-rays showed nothing broken.

592
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,440
I didn't have a concussion.

593
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:52,520
I had a lot of road rash and I had, I have damage to tissue, tissue damage, ligament

594
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:56,200
damage, that all that, you know, that kind of thing in my back, which I have to maintain.

595
00:34:56,200 --> 00:35:02,800
But no, and I had tire tracks across my head and they tease me about that in the hospital

596
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,840
where my hair was falling out on both sides of my head.

597
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,360
But yeah, I have some scars for sure.

598
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,760
But no, nothing serious.

599
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,720
You were only in the hospital five hours.

600
00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:20,480
I don't even know what to do with that.

601
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:21,480
That's insane.

602
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,600
Do you have any pictures like the tire track on your head?

603
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,680
I want to see it.

604
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,480
That was 22 years ago.

605
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:30,480
It was before smartphones.

606
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,080
It was before smartphones.

607
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:33,080
Yeah.

608
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,080
Yeah.

609
00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,040
I had some scars then, but I was laid up.

610
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,160
I was laid up for a couple of weeks in bed.

611
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,080
You know, the pain set in.

612
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,000
I could barely move, but there was no permanent damage.

613
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:46,560
I did have to go through some recovery.

614
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,560
I was off work for a couple of months.

615
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,440
Luckily, my boss at the time was very nice about the whole thing.

616
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,440
Yeah.

617
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,960
I was in, I was home recovering when 9-11 happened.

618
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,040
I wouldn't bring up religion, but you did earlier.

619
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,440
You said you were a bad Catholic.

620
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,440
Yeah.

621
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:09,920
Did this experience change your view of religion or of God or how did it change you?

622
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:13,360
No, it didn't change my view of religion.

623
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:18,760
It did bring me closer to Jesus, to Christ, to Yeshua.

624
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:25,200
I learned from him that so much, I still, I mean, he's part of me and I talk to him.

625
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,200
He's always on my mind.

626
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:27,320
I talk to him all the time.

627
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,800
He's my guide.

628
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:33,360
He's my, I can say savior if you want to use that word.

629
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:36,400
He saved my life, definitely.

630
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,880
He and more ways than one.

631
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:42,880
And he, he's who, who I owe everything to.

632
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:46,440
I wouldn't be here without him even afterwards.

633
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,240
And even though my body was healed, I still had a lot of healing to go through with my

634
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,360
soul for sure.

635
00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:55,000
Well, I really appreciate you sharing this.

636
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,160
It's an amazing story.

637
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:57,640
It's a really cool story.

638
00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:58,840
Thank you.

639
00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,680
What thought would you like to leave with our listeners tonight?

640
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:08,560
Oh gosh, a lot of things that Yeshua's taught me, taught me is that we are really here to,

641
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:14,240
to help each other, to be kind to each other, to be loved, be who we are and what we are,

642
00:37:14,240 --> 00:37:16,440
which is love, which is light.

643
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,680
And, and that we're so much more powerful than we think we are.

644
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:27,920
And the trials and tribulations that we go through are to help strengthen us and help

645
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:29,360
us realize who we really are.

646
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,720
And we choose them and I knew that I had made agreements.

647
00:37:31,720 --> 00:37:37,520
He helped me realize I had made agreements with the people that I was going through and

648
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,640
as abuse with as a child.

649
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,640
Okay.

650
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,920
So he helped me through all that.

651
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:51,400
And if there's anything in anyone's life that seems that they can't get through, know

652
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,400
that there's always light on the other side of it.

653
00:37:54,400 --> 00:38:01,120
I know because I went through a very tough time afterwards because of what I was remembering,

654
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,240
the experiences I was having afterwards.

655
00:38:03,240 --> 00:38:07,440
So it wasn't all hunky dory afterwards just because I was met by Yeshua.

656
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:14,400
It took a while for me to remember my true self and we're moving into a really amazing

657
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:15,400
time.

658
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:16,400
He showed me that.

659
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:21,960
There's a lot I haven't shared with you that he showed me that I was shown.

660
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,760
Is that we are moving into an amazing time.

661
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:30,080
We just have to go through the depths of the purge.

662
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:36,400
I guess you could call it of what humanity is going through now, the detox and we are

663
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,000
going through an amazing, amazing time.

664
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:45,480
Somebody listening today does not know if they should believe in an afterlife or not.

665
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:49,720
Whether everything just ends when we die or if there's something more.

666
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:52,080
What message of hope do you have for that person?

667
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,480
Yeah, I can't make anyone believe anything.

668
00:38:54,480 --> 00:39:01,760
I believe that people have to maybe need their own experiences in order to have that belief.

669
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,120
I know the afterlife is real.

670
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:10,720
I know that we are eternal because of my experience and both my NDEs have shown me that, have

671
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:11,720
proved that to me.

672
00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:13,200
I'm not afraid to die.

673
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,080
I don't want to have the pain, of course.

674
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:20,160
It's just a small part of who we are as a soul and we are eternal.

675
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:27,400
If they want to dive into their soul and maybe start asking those questions and seek to be

676
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:34,200
a seeker in that way, then meditation and what he taught me, meditation and journaling

677
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,600
is the best way to do that.

678
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:41,360
People need to find their own answers for sure because everything is within us.

679
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:46,000
We can't look outside of ourselves to find answers that has to be within.

680
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Sharon, thanks so much.

681
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,000
I appreciate it.

682
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,920
Thank you, Eric.

683
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,680
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684
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:59,800
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685
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,040
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686
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,600
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687
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:13,080
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