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From the time that they pronounced me deaf was a good 45 minutes.
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They cut my clothes and then they paddled my heart, my heart had stopped.
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And I could see people screaming and crying, but I didn't realize that was actually my
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physical body because I was somewhere else.
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The only thing that I could feel, if you could imagine, absolute love and peace, there wasn't
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anything else to be felt.
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I was greeted by people I'd known in the past.
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I'm back home again.
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Incredibly safe and felt at home.
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Welcome, welcome to Round Trip Death, everybody, and welcome to our very special guest this
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morning, Susie Pearl, all the way from Spain.
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How is Spain today, Susie?
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Well, as I see around the world all these really incredible weather situations, I'm
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really blessed to say that it's sunny and warm in Ibiza, but not over warm.
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It's just a good temperature for considering early days in January.
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Having just set you up as being in Spain and then people just heard your British accent,
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tell us a little bit about you so people know what's going on.
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Yeah, I'd love to.
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So I'm from England, near Cambridge, where the university is.
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I've always been interested in psychology and science and the mind, really.
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I worked a lot with Dr. Richard Bandler, who invented neuro-linguistic programming, and
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from him and Paul McKenna, who I worked with for many years.
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I learned a lot about the mind and how we can use it and power it and connect with our
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feelings and words and emotions and use that to change our state.
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So I really had a career looking at psychology.
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And then in a different phase of my life, I was looking at, I had a celebrity PR agency
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and I looked after a lot of big names like names that we all know, Madonna and the Spice
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Girls and Michael Jackson and people like this.
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I've had this very colorful life, very stressful life actually.
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I've just been writing my book about my NDE and in that, I'm doing a lot of storytelling
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about my career and my life.
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And I realized writing it now in my later years, I'm thinking, my goodness, how did
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I actually have all that stamina to do all that traveling around and being in Hollywood
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and going to all these amazing theaters and gigs and looking after these very, let's
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say, demanding artists.
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But I got to hang out with a lot of real geniuses of our time.
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And for that, I'm really grateful.
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And I noticed that with these geniuses, there comes a lot of insecurities and anxieties about
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life when they are surrounded by yes people.
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And my job was to help them to navigate the world.
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So I've had an interesting time.
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And then I got really burnt out with all of that.
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And I decided to leave London where all my network is and was rather, and came to this
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little island floating in the middle of the MED, which is well known for the mystical side
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of things and the tracks, shamans and healers and very interesting people, which was a great
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appeal to me to live somewhere like this.
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And I ended up in a forest here living very simple life after a very hectic life in show
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business and flying around the world, very busy.
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So it's a real contrast.
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And I'm very grateful for all parts.
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That sounds awesome.
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Thank you for the intro.
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All right, near death experience time.
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We're not going to beat around the bush any longer.
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Five years ago, you were diagnosed with something really scary.
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Give us an idea of what was going on.
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Yeah.
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So I was meeting a friend for coffee, as we always did in my local village.
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And I couldn't remember the way.
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And I got lost and I bumped my car on the way.
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I ran into the lamp post coming out the driver, et cetera.
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And my neighbor said, there's something all right.
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She hiked me off for a bio resonance appointment and they checked my brain and said there was
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something going on.
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I was subsequently diagnosed with a massive brain tumor.
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And I was given three weeks to live.
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That's obviously shocking news, but deep in my soul, I knew that I was going to be okay
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and that I was going to live to tell the tale.
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And it was really only me and my son who believed that I was going to get through.
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Everyone else thought I was going.
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What it did do was give me a reference point for learning to live, thinking I only had
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a very limited amount of time to live.
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Can I just ask a question before you go on?
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That has got to be shocking.
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I mean, you think you're fine and all of a sudden you're told three weeks to live.
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What does that do to your, I shouldn't say to your brain because it's brain cancer, but
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to your mindset, do you all of a sudden switch from thinking work to family or just what
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happened internally?
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Well, I'd spent many years working in the area of mind, hypnosis and expanding possibilities
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and belief systems through my work in NLP and theta healing and things like this.
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So I had learned the power of being positive and keeping everything in the positive.
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I was driving everyone mad when I was ill by being so positive.
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I said, look, I'm going to get out of this.
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I know I am.
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I've got my magic toolbox and I was thinking about visualization, affirmations, meditation,
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prayer, all of these protocols that I was familiar with.
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I was going to pull them in and use them to the max.
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And I believe that that would help me and get me through.
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Of course, my belief system didn't match most other belief systems around me.
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My family were pulling their hair out and going, oh my God, she's really lost it because
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she's not accepting that she's very, very ill and she's not going to make it.
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My son, who was young then, he was just turning into a teenager.
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Well, he was early in his teens and he hadn't got reference points for being a grown-up.
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He was still really a child.
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And he, like I, decided we were going to be very radical about this illness.
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And when I checked in my heart, I felt there's going to be a good solution here.
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And I actually had, when I was in hospital, I went to hospital in Ibiza.
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Then I was transferred to hospital in Cambridge, near where I grew up, my home, so that we
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could speak clearly the language because I had to make some big decisions.
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We had to make big decisions.
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And I didn't want a second language to get in the way.
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So I went back to the UK and wonderful nurses and doctors there who were looking after me.
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And I really felt that I was in the best place I could possibly be.
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And I had faith and trust that I was going to be looked after.
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And as I was going into, one day I was having my third brain, the first brain scan showed
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this humongous tumor.
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And as I was going into the scanner, I remember praying and saying, why am I going through
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this?
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What is the purpose of this?
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I understand there will be a divine purpose to this.
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And I got very clearly downloaded into my mind.
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And I got this information.
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It said that you're going to have three scouts.
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The first one is expect really bad news.
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The second one is going to be much improved.
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The third one is going to be really clear.
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And you're going to be fully healed.
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This is your storyline.
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And you're being given this because we want you to write a book and do a movie.
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There'll be a movie.
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And this is to really inspire people about what happens when we as humans die and you're
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going to find out.
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And this was the information I was given.
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And then I went into this cylindrical tube, this MRI scanner with all the loud noises and
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the knocking to examine my brain for the first scan.
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And when I came out of that first scan, the doctor, I remember clearly coming into my
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hospital room and saying to me, this does not look good.
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This is very severe tumor you have.
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And on my experience of 40 years in oncology, I expect you will have around three weeks.
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So I suggest get your will written, get your family here immediately and we'll prepare
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a program for you, medical treatment.
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And I'm someone who didn't take aspirin or any sort of pills.
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I was not interested in that.
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I lived a life very clean eating, very sort of anti-tablets and all this sort of thing.
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So I thought of having chemo.
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Woof, blew my mind.
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You know, blew my mind.
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And I just thought I don't want to do that.
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So I said to my family, I'm not doing it.
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And my brother sat me down and said, look, we're really asking you as your brothers.
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We want you to have the treatment.
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So I said, okay, I will.
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I just don't want to.
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I will.
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And so I started on the chemo and lost all my hair and had a really severe difficult
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time as all cancer patients do.
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But deep inside, I had this amazing belief that I would get through it.
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When they gave me the results to the first scanner, I wasn't surprised that there were
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spadneys because I'd been told about this by this.
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It was a golden orb that came to me and it felt like golden angels were surrounding
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me and supporting me.
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At what point did you have a near-death experience?
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What happened that turned the tables?
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I mean, it had to have been something drastic.
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Yeah.
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So I spent a lot of time in my hospital room praying.
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And I prayed.
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I said, I have a young boy.
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I want to continue my life.
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I've got a lot of things to do.
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I know that.
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I was a writer anywhere, I'd written books about happiness and creativity and things
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like this before.
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So I said, I've got things to do.
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I really, this is not my time.
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I really feel this is not my time.
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So I was praying and affirming that I wanted my life.
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I wanted to keep my life and be here.
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One morning I sat on my bed and I think I was about to have some really heavy treatment.
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Oh no, I remember.
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I was in my hospital bed.
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The door swung open and there were three men at the door who I was not expecting.
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This was my ex who I was at war with, had been at war with, and my two brothers.
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And so all the men in my life who I had major issues with all arrived at the same time.
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And I thought my higher self just went into overdrive.
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I went, oh my God, this is very serious.
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This is serious now.
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Now these guys have arrived.
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Things are getting serious.
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And it was that day that I sat in my bed and I began to meditate.
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And I felt this gathering of my spirit come and I felt this worrying feeling.
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And as I meditated I could feel this flow of my spirit and it was being tugged at the
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top of my head, the crown of my head to come out.
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And I had this feeling that my spirit was really on the move.
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And I got this intuition, Suze, you're going to die today, but it's going to be okay.
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So I got this information.
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So I came out of my meditation.
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I went over to the nurses station and I interrupted them early morning meeting and I said, ah,
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it's my favorite nurse.
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Excuse me, can I interrupt?
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It's really important.
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Suze, what's wrong?
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I said, I'm going to die today and I want you to keep an eye on me because I know I'm
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going today.
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And they said, you're going to be fine.
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It will go you covered.
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I said, yeah, okay, but I want you to really keep an eye on me today.
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So I kind of warned them about this and I went back onto my bed, sat down again and this
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process began with the spirit tugging to leave my body.
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I felt this tug I can best describe it as.
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As my spirit was leaving, wanted to leave my body and I felt it leaving through the crown
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of my head.
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I was very familiar with feeling what I was feeling inside myself through my years of
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meditation.
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And then I felt my spirit gather and whoosh at the top of my head and I felt myself expand
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and I went outside of my body.
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Then I noticed that I was looking down on the shell of my body beneath whilst I was
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up expanding into the universe.
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And this is where it all got like a movie.
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It's not like we are here talking now.
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The quality of what happened was kind of very difficult to put into words, but I was free.
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I was free of my body that was very ill.
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I, my spirit, was finally at liberty.
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It was finally free and it wasn't constrained and confined to my body.
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And I went floating around and I realized that something very unusual was happening
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and I was without fear.
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I had absolutely no fear.
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I went traveling around this.
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It felt like being in a Hollywood movie with the stars and the cosmos, this infinite space.
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And I went on my little travels.
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I felt free.
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I felt a peace.
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I felt very blissful.
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I knew I was safe.
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I knew I was looked after.
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I knew I was out of my body.
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I had a lot of information coming to me.
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At one point I was given this choice.
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I was told, you have a one time, I knew it was a one time choice.
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I can't remember if they told me that or if I just hunched, had a hunch that this was
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okay.
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But I had an opportunity to decide one time, do you want to come back into your body or
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do you want to stay here?
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And if I had not got a son who I loved dearly, I probably would have chosen to stay because
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it was glorious.
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It was the most amount of freedom, bliss, unconditional love that I have ever felt in
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my life.
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And I didn't even have a reference point for how beautiful this feeling was.
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So part of me thought, this is so nice.
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I don't want to go back.
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But the big part of me as a mum said, yes, I want to go back.
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I want to be there for my son.
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He's very young.
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I'm going to support him through his early years of going into being a man.
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And I want to be there.
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And I want to be there to be his mum.
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And I want to see him grow up and enjoy those later years.
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And that was a very firm intention.
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Eric, as soon as I set that intention to come back, whiff, white, there's a white flash.
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Remember that so vividly.
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It was the biggest white flash I've ever seen.
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It was like being the closest thing I can compare it to.
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We had an electrical thunderstorm here this week.
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And the sky was lighting up with white flashes.
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It was this power and this intensity of a huge electrical storm.
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It was much bigger than this, but it was bright, white light, which I read as God.
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This was a God light.
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And with that flash, I came back into my body.
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And guess what?
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When I came back in, I had a scan pretty much straight after.
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And the doctor came in with the news and he was shaking his head.
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As he came through the door, he was, I got your scan results.
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I said, okay.
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And I knew because I'd already been told by these angels that I was going to have three
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scans and the third one was going to be clear.
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I knew to expect this would be clear.
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He said, I have been in oncology for 40 years and I've never seen this in all of my career
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as a doctor dealing with cancer patients.
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It's all clear.
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Your scan is all clear.
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And there is no tumor now.
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And the extraordinary thing is there's no scarring, which we would have expected from
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having had this tumor.
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There is no scarring.
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And it's all gone.
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I don't have any explanation for this result.
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It looks like a miracle to me.
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Although we're not in the business of miracles.
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I looked to him and I said, that's interesting that you're not in the business of miracles
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because I am.
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That is my business.
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That's what I do.
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I do miracles.
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And this is one of them.
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And he kind of smiled, confused.
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He didn't really understand what was going on.
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I'd never heard of a near-death experience.
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I did not understand that many people, any other people have been through similar situations
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as this.
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I'd never read about it, never heard about it.
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But I learned fast.
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I started absorbing information about it.
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So there I was being told that I'm clear.
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I told my family and I remember my brother saying, well, this is a miracle.
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And he's a farmer down to earth, doesn't talk about these kind of things.
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I don't think I've ever heard him call a miracle before.
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But it was clearly something that was not understood by the people around me.
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But it was in my terminology, it was something that made sense.
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I just was thinking that the golden angels I referred to, they told me that I would
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be going through a storyline that I would be writing into a book.
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So as a writer, I was like, oh, right, I'm being given this real life experience that
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I can now write as a story and as a real life true story that will inspire people.
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That's my purpose.
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At last, I have found my purpose, and this is it, to talk about this experience and to
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be cured, healed from the most difficult kind of tumor.
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This is a tumor that was in the center of my brain so it could not be operated upon because
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that would have killed me if they tried to do that.
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So suddenly here I was with a storyline that made so much sense, I can write about this.
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And it's only now that I'm starting to do that.
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This is so cool.
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I want to just fill in a couple of blanks here.
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One is I'm interested to see the commonalities.
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One of the commonalities is the power of a mother's love.
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I have had so many people explain to me the choice, the decision that they had to make
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to come back.
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And a lot of people did not want to come back, but the many mothers that I have talked to
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who said, I knew that I needed and wanted to go back for my children is such a powerful
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thing.
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And they all have the opportunity to come back.
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Of course, we're not talking about those that had to stay for whatever reason.
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I can't speculate and don't want to go into that.
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But the other commonality that goes with making that decision is when someone makes
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that decision to go back, they don't linger where they are.
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They don't all of a sudden, oh, would you, you're going to go back, but would you like
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a tour of heaven first or something like that?
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No.
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The instant that someone makes the choice to go back, and I can't think of any exceptions
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to this, boom, they're back.
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Now their description of how they get back into their body is different for everybody.
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What was the term you used again?
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Yeah, it was a white, bright white light and I was transported immediately.
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As soon as I decided, I want to, as soon as I set the intention, I'm going back.
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Bam.
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I was back in my body.
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It usually happens very quickly like that.
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You just said the word bam.
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I've heard the word slammed, you know, dropped, whatever.
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It seems to be a very fast process, but sometimes leaving the body like you explained can be
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a little bit slower and a little bit more of a process.
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I just find that interesting.
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Yeah.
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When I left my body, that felt slower process.
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A process that I didn't know what was happening.
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I felt only that my spirit was on the move and it felt on the move like this, kind of
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circular, like a spiral.
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I know in order to feel feelings, they have to move.
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I guess the same is with this sense of feeling my spirit moving through my body and up and
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out.
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It felt quite a slow thing.
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It was almost as if I had the warning that, okay, you're on your way now and I could get
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used to this idea.
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It wasn't a shock.
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It's kind of suddenly whoosh, go out really quick.
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It was more of a slow burn and it wasn't a burn, but it was more of a slow process,
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let's say.
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I had time to get my head around the fact that I could be leaving my body and I loved
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the fact that I had no fear about this, no fear at all.
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I always had no fear throughout the process.
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When I was in heaven, I had no fear.
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When I came back, I certainly had, the best way I can describe it is that my program for
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fear got deleted.
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I couldn't find it.
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I couldn't find fear.
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That's very interesting.
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Tell me in your opinion, what is the opposite emotion of fear?
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Love.
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Were you feeling love?
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Oh yeah.
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I was emanating love.
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I felt in the angel realms, I felt, and part of me now still feels quite angelic and very
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heavily, very connected to these realms, even though I'm back here, family was my feet
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on planet Earth.
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I have retained an element of these higher realms in my soul, in my existence now.
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That's present.
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I look at situations now and I have great compassion and love for what's going on, rather
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than any sort of, let's say, more negative emotions of judgment and of guilt or of these
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kind of things that have been replaced almost completely with this compassion and this unconditional
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love at all.
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I can't harm a fly.
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Literally, I can't harm a fly.
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I have to pick it up, wrap it in a big thing, so it's got plenty of room to stay alive,
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and then I will let it go outside.
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Is that level where everything has importance and every living sentient being has importance?
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Yeah.
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How old are you different?
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I'm different in many ways.
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I am not the person that I was and I found it hard to integrate back into life when I
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came back because I had changed so much.
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I looked the same.
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I had the same name.
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I had the same life, kind of.
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People thought I was the same person, but I wasn't.
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My frequency had changed.
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My energy levels had changed.
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My interests had changed.
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I can't be around people who are talking a negative game.
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I always found that quite difficult, but now I definitely cannot.
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I cannot hang out in circles where people are saying mean things about other people,
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not interested.
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I will literally walk away because I can't be in that scenario.
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I curate very carefully now my environment who I hang out with.
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I live in Bita for goodness sake.
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There's partying, there's drugs, there's all sorts of stuff going on here.
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I am very careful about who I spend time with, what I spend my time doing, and make sure that
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I am not around negative energies.
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This has become extremely important.
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It's always quite important, but now it's absolutely 100% important to me.
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Are you sensitive enough to it that if you walk in a room with that kind of negative
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energy or frequency that's different than yours, you feel it immediately and turn around
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and walk out?
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Yes.
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I would describe myself as a lever.
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I leave if I am not feeling it.
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Many times I walk into social gatherings.
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I will take a look around and I think, this isn't for me.
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This is not going to uplift my energy.
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It's going to pull me down.
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I am off and I will just go.
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Most times I go somewhere knowing I might only be there five or 10 minutes and then
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I will leave.
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I don't drink alcohol because I'm aware of what that does to my frequency.
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It's just not good for me.
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It's just not good.
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I want to change who I am in that way using spirits.
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It's interesting that heavy booze is called spirits and how that interacts with our own
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spirit.
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I don't smoke and I don't drink and I eat very carefully.
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I curate everything that comes in.
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I can't watch scary, horrible movies.
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I'm probably a handful to be around but actually I understand the power of everything around
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us.
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While we're talking about this, one of the things I noted very clearly is that I am part
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of everything.
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I am everything.
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I am God.
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God is me.
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We all are.
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We're all part of this thing.
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Everything has meaning.
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Words, emotions, feelings are very powerful on a personal level and a collective level.
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The impact we have is powerful and we are interconnected with everything.
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We are all one.
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If I hurt someone else, I'm hurting myself.
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I knew that in theory before but it was when I went up that I saw it in action.
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I saw this principle in action that we truly are part of everything and that we have to
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really mind our behaviors and choices.
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The good life is about making good choices.
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If something makes you feel not great, there's a reason for that.
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If you see a friend, someone you know, and they pull you down, I notice that and I pay
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attention to that.
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I don't want to be around people who do that.
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I make very careful choices.
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You said to me, what's changed afterwards?
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I can't be around the people.
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Some people, I used to be around for this reason because I'm very sensitive to the energies.
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My friendship group changed.
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What I do changes.
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What I do in terms of work has changed and so on and so on.
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I was always quite a creative soul and now that I'm really connected to these higher
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realms or more expansive realms, let's call it that, I don't want to say there's high
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and low, there's expansive realms and that has powered up my creativity.
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I was a good writer before.
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I've written published books before I got ill.
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Now I think I'm just so much better writer and visionary and receiver of ideas than
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I ever was.
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In writing my book on creativity, I talked about the fact that we can jump up and bring
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ideas down.
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Many people do that often at the same time.
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You find ideas have their time because voting around in the collective is how I think about
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it.
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They can drop down to different people.
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Some people will take those ideas and run with them, other people will choose to ignore
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it.
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I find myself much more connected to the field.
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I can feel things.
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I can see things.
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I can anticipate things far more than I ever did.
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That's my responsibility.
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Yeah, it does.
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Can I ask you a couple more questions?
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You mentioned in coming out of your body and looking down at the quote shell of your body,
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I think it was the term that you used, and that you didn't feel any fear, but still wasn't
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that a little weird?
484
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I mean, didn't that just feel kind of strange leaving your body or did it feel natural?
485
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:36,440
I don't know.
486
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,400
I can't say it felt weird.
487
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,520
I can't say I felt that was weird.
488
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:44,640
I'm curious character.
489
00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:49,080
I was having fun with this as, wow, this is cool.
490
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,560
I'm seeing all these things I've never seen before.
491
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,560
Wow.
492
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:59,400
What was the feeling I had, which is intense, almost excitement and curiosity.
493
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:00,400
This is a tale.
494
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,640
This is an amazing story I'm in.
495
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:07,320
I kind of knew because of what the angels had told me that I'm going to be given this
496
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:15,520
extraordinary journey, I kind of knew that I was in this scene in my own life movie.
497
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,480
That was really cool.
498
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:20,960
I just wanted to absorb it and love it.
499
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:21,960
That's what I did.
500
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:32,040
I've learned that keeping that sense of lightness and curiosity and not being kind of troubled
501
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,720
by it is a really good way to go.
502
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,840
There's different ways you can look at this.
503
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:41,120
You can look at this and go, oh my gosh, that is way too much information for one person
504
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,120
to have to handle.
505
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:43,840
That's a big old story.
506
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:48,200
Or you can look at it as, I'm so grateful to have such an extraordinary story.
507
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,360
I meet many people.
508
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,840
I'm in Ibiza, I love coffee.
509
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,400
I have a lot of coffee.
510
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,160
That's the thing I love.
511
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,800
I sit down and I love chatting to people.
512
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:03,160
Today I chatted to three or four people I'd never met before.
513
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:10,400
I was at the coffee bar this morning and I chatted to this lady and she said, oh, how
514
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,360
long have you lived on the island?
515
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:13,960
I just arrived and I said, oh, how nice.
516
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,440
I told her my story.
517
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,600
She said, what do you do?
518
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:19,600
I said, I'm a writer.
519
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:20,600
What are you writing about?
520
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,800
She was asking very specific questions.
521
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,560
So I thought, all right, I can tell you.
522
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:29,840
I told her that I said to her, this is what happened to me and I'm writing a book about
523
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,840
it.
524
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:31,840
She was, oh, wow.
525
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,080
I've had something similar.
526
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:41,200
We traded conversations and it made, we weren't talking about the normal thing that people
527
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,800
talk about, which is, oh, what do you get up to this weekend?
528
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,800
No, I'm interested.
529
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:54,360
We were talking on this level of leaving your body and getting healed and having these extraordinary
530
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:58,080
spiritual epiphanies.
531
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:05,120
So it makes for a lot more interesting conversations, I think, and fun conversations with other
532
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,120
people.
533
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,680
So I love connecting.
534
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,680
You also mentioned feeling free.
535
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:13,160
When your spirit was out of your body, you felt super free.
536
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:14,880
Explain that a little bit more.
537
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:15,880
Yeah.
538
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:24,160
So I felt that, I felt this is an adventure with infinite potential and that I was flying,
539
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:31,480
I was like, I was superwoman flying through the air with my cape, you know, just freedom.
540
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,840
And there were no constraints suddenly.
541
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,440
And I had felt very constrained.
542
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:42,280
I felt constrained when I was in the hospital, for example, and I had to stay in this room
543
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:48,360
and I escaped from hospital four times because I couldn't bear to be told I had to stay in
544
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:49,680
one room.
545
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:54,640
So I remember unplugging, I had all these tubes coming in here and so I unplugged them, got
546
00:33:54,640 --> 00:34:00,280
changed into my outdoor wear, slipped out the back, went into the lift, hailed a cab,
547
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,760
went into town, into Cambridge.
548
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,840
I did that four or five times because I didn't want to be constrained.
549
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,960
And I love freedom.
550
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,840
And so I escaped and I got caught a couple of times.
551
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:16,320
And I just wanted to get some fresh air.
552
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:20,920
And I actually wanted to get some good food because the food in the hospital, that would
553
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,800
have killed me if nothing else because it was just, there was no nutrients in it.
554
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,000
So I wanted to go and eat.
555
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:32,320
So I went to the local fantastic noodles bar with fresh vegetables and had fun there.
556
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,480
So that was kind of fun, running away.
557
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:40,760
So adventure and freedom, they're really important themes for me and I got to enjoy being free
558
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:42,520
of my beautiful body.
559
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:51,240
I got to enjoy what it is to be an infinite being, which I think at the baseline of all
560
00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:52,760
of us, that's what we are.
561
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:58,120
We're infinite beings held for this lifetime in a container that's called the body.
562
00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:03,480
And the body gets older and sometimes it malfunctions and we get to seize and so on.
563
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:11,120
And then when we die, we get released into home and Vikkha at one with the whole universe.
564
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,120
That's the experience I had.
565
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,680
And I'm so blessed to have had the experience.
566
00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:19,400
I feel it was the luckiest thing and the best thing that's ever happened to me.
567
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,600
People say to me, oh, you poor thing having this brain cancer, that must have been terrible.
568
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:25,600
And I have to reframe it.
569
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,720
I said, it's not wasn't terrible at all.
570
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:33,960
It was actually, if I'm honest with you, the most wonderful experience of my life.
571
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:35,480
I feel very, very grateful.
572
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:38,680
I'm a better, happier person for it.
573
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:41,800
What else did you see while you were flying out there?
574
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,920
I don't really remember seeing very much.
575
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:52,640
I felt this expansive feeling of freedom and I felt what it feels like to be in spirit
576
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,440
form.
577
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:59,520
And there's not, I know some people have relatives that they meet and so on.
578
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,320
I didn't have that.
579
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:06,000
I just had this feeling of freedom out of my body.
580
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:13,200
And I also had a feeling that I was given a new, a mental upgrade, an operating system
581
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,360
upgrade in my mental faculties.
582
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:23,960
So when I came back, I was kind of with a different upgraded platform mentally, which
583
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,960
is fun.
584
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:30,080
I've always been a kind of gregarious adventurer, interested in new things.
585
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,320
I thought, how you don't get more interesting than upgrading your own operating software.
586
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,400
That is a good upgrade.
587
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,200
Susie 2.0.
588
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:40,880
Okay.
589
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,040
Next I want to hear about the three angels.
590
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:44,680
Tell me more about them.
591
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:45,680
Okay.
592
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,240
So it was, there weren't three actually, it was about three scans.
593
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,480
They told me I would have three scans.
594
00:36:52,480 --> 00:37:01,360
So I was in the hospital and I was praying for information about what was happening.
595
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:07,560
And I felt this golden orb, very clearly it was an orb.
596
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:13,280
So in that sense, I have a van orb is, is I was surrounded by golden light.
597
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:19,840
And this golden light I knew was an angelic form.
598
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:23,040
And I knew that I could commune with this form.
599
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:29,000
And I knew that this, this form of, I knew that this was golden angels, a collective
600
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:30,320
of golden angels.
601
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,440
And I knew they were here to help me.
602
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:33,680
I just knew that.
603
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,480
I knew I could get information.
604
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:40,720
And there was a kind of trading of a, a swapping of, well, swapping suggests I was giving them
605
00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:41,720
information.
606
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:46,560
No, they were giving me information about what was happening and giving me a clear idea that
607
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,000
I was looked after.
608
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,680
They told me I would have three scans.
609
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,080
One was a terrible news.
610
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,080
Second one improved.
611
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:57,120
Third one, I was great and healed.
612
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:01,640
So they gave me this important information, which allowed me to feel really calm through
613
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,280
the whole process because I believed what they said.
614
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:10,320
And the thing is, I started telling people, oh yeah, I had this, these angels come to
615
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,320
me and I was acting before I got ill.
616
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,000
I was, oh yeah, just immediately before I was diagnosed.
617
00:38:17,000 --> 00:38:19,040
I was very hyper.
618
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,000
I was acting strangely.
619
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,800
I was talking very fast.
620
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:28,120
And I organized, for example, a press conference from my bed.
621
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:31,960
I got, I had someone working with me, my assistant.
622
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:37,200
I asked her to send out all of these information, all these emails to 500 people around the world.
623
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:41,040
There's going to be a big press conference in Ibiza, the Montesola Hotel.
624
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:42,040
Please come along.
625
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,240
So you've got a very important announcement to make, all of this.
626
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:50,880
So I was full on and so people were thinking, oh my God, she's really lost it now.
627
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:55,640
She's gone mental, bless her, and we've got to look after a mental case.
628
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:01,280
So I started telling people about the angels that came and eyes would roll out and they
629
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,480
go, oh no, you know, she's really lost it now.
630
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:08,800
So I learned very quickly to zip it and not talk about angels.
631
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:14,320
I had this understanding that if I started telling people what I was seeing and what
632
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:21,200
was happening, I would be escorted to a psychiatric unit faster than anything and subdued, given
633
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:25,800
heavy medication, and maybe they'd just lock me up and they throw away the key and I won't
634
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:26,800
get out.
635
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,040
So I thought, hmm, not a good strategy.
636
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,960
So I learned that all of the things that I was going through, not to share with anybody.
637
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,680
So I kept it to myself for a long time.
638
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,520
And it's only now.
639
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,680
And I had a very successful career.
640
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,960
I wasn't like a crazy hippie.
641
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:48,120
Like there are many in Ibiza, crazy hippies just talking about all sorts of crazy things
642
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:49,880
and people will go, oh, they're the hippies.
643
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:50,880
I was not a hippie.
644
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:57,960
I'd had a very successful career, done really well, run businesses and had a great stellar
645
00:39:57,960 --> 00:39:58,960
career.
646
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:06,880
So it wasn't easy to label me as a crazy person because of my background, but I was being
647
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,560
labeled a crazy person while I was in hospital.
648
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:15,040
So I kind of had to mute that and I learned, don't tell your story.
649
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,040
Just don't.
650
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,840
There'll be a time when you can, but this is not the time.
651
00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:23,440
And this whole frequency thing that you're talking about, I imagine you've gotten in
652
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:27,920
tune enough to realize, okay, here's a safe space to talk about it.
653
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,440
Here is not based on what you're feeling there.
654
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:31,920
Is that the case?
655
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:32,920
Yeah.
656
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:33,920
Yeah.
657
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:36,200
And I now talk about it a lot more.
658
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:42,720
For example, a woman I just met this morning that I mentioned in the cafe, ordering a drink,
659
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:46,040
I had told her my story and I knew it was okay to do so.
660
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:52,360
I've learned, I think maybe things have changed in this period of, that has gone on.
661
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:58,840
The world is waking up a little bit more, but also I've got enough runway between now
662
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:08,240
and then to feel powerful enough to share stories that I feel I might get heavily judged
663
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:09,240
on.
664
00:41:09,240 --> 00:41:14,040
And I felt for a long time that I would get really judged when I start talking about this
665
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:19,800
because that happened when I first, it first happened, I was judged heavily.
666
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,680
I didn't want to be judged.
667
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:27,880
So it's taken a lot of courage, a lot of reading of books, talking to people.
668
00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:33,040
Raymond Moody, I adore, for example, has done so many studies on all of this.
669
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,240
When he started telling me about the extent of the studies and just how many people have
670
00:41:37,240 --> 00:41:40,080
had this experience, this gave me great encouragement.
671
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,200
I thought, yeah, great.
672
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:47,280
And I know that the reason that I've been through this is because I need to share the
673
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:48,440
story with others.
674
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:53,320
I want people to be optimistic about what happens when you die because it's a very beautiful
675
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,320
thing.
676
00:41:54,320 --> 00:42:00,640
We can't possibly understand the nature of the universe as human beings living a life.
677
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:08,000
We can't understand the depth and the width and the beauty and the magic of what being
678
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:14,280
a human being is, what consciousness is, the magic of life, the synchronicities that happen.
679
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:21,960
Just this week, since we're on the turn of the year, I've been noticing on purpose synchronicities.
680
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:27,720
Yesterday, I counted 10 just in one day of things that happened that were just crazily
681
00:42:27,720 --> 00:42:30,080
brilliant.
682
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,240
My son is looking for an apartment in Amsterdam.
683
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:36,360
I was chatting to someone in the cafe and they just out of nowhere said, I've got an
684
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,280
apartment in Amsterdam that I'm looking to find someone for.
685
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,320
They just met half an hour ago and it's all great.
686
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:50,000
This kind of synchronicity that is magical and just noticing all these things is part
687
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:54,480
of the wonder of all of this and sharing the magic of life.
688
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,960
How fun is that?
689
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:02,840
It's part of gratitude also is realizing all those things so that we can be grateful for
690
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:03,840
them.
691
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,840
All right, two more questions before I let you go.
692
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,880
Number one, on a scale of one to 10, what is your fear of death?
693
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:10,880
Zero.
694
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,280
I have no fear.
695
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,280
No fear.
696
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:20,200
Because I know how beautiful it is and it's inevitability.
697
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:27,360
We are meant to live, learn, grow, have fun and die.
698
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,240
That's how we're built.
699
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:36,800
The fact that I've experienced a tip or a little tip of the iceberg of death and I can
700
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,640
see that it's glorious.
701
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:43,640
If someone says to me, I'm losing someone in my family or I've just lost someone or
702
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:47,760
I get many people come to me who are cancer patients.
703
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,640
I had one this week, a beautiful guy came and said he's just been given a very short
704
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:55,720
duration and I told him my story and it helped him.
705
00:43:55,720 --> 00:44:04,920
It's a wonderful thing to live life, to learn lessons and then to elegantly just leave the
706
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,920
body and then you have freedom.
707
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:08,680
It's a beautiful thing.
708
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,880
That's beautiful.
709
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:16,040
A lot of people have not felt the bliss and unconditional love that you mentioned.
710
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,200
Would you please dive into that a little bit more and put it in terms that maybe we can
711
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:21,200
relate to?
712
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,600
What did it really feel like?
713
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:33,720
Feeling unconditional love, it's a very unique and special effect.
714
00:44:33,720 --> 00:44:41,240
All of these big concepts that we're discussing here, words hardly do it justice.
715
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:49,360
I can only talk in terms of words that I have in my vocabulary and emotions that I have
716
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,680
in my catalogue of emotions.
717
00:44:52,680 --> 00:45:03,800
I can describe it as beautiful being in love with oneself and in love with our relationship
718
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:10,960
with the earth and the planet, which my interest in planet and climate change and everything
719
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:11,960
is.
720
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:18,600
I am now on the board of a very brilliant planet organization to help climate change
721
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,960
because I care.
722
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:28,160
Love for the planet and my relationship to the planet has just developed so strongly
723
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now.
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I feel like it's explaining what unconditional love is like, what the death, past the body
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and in this realm of everything and nothingness.
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It's very hard because we haven't got any reference points to compare it to.
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All I can say is it gives you the emotions that we are all looking for, which is connection,
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being part of something wonderful and a feeling loved.
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This to me is a heavenly state in itself.
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Susie, thank you so much for being with me today.
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It's been inspirational.
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I appreciate it.
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Eric, thank you so much and thank you for everyone who listens to this.
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I just want to complete with a few things, which is if you know people who are dying
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or you have people around you who are dying or indeed you feel like you are on the way,
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there is nothing to fear.
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There is nothing to fear.
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It is a destiny that we are all as living human beings will head to at some point today,
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tomorrow or in very many years, doesn't matter.
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There is nothing to fear.
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I think in our communities and our culture, culturally, we've coded it incorrectly.
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We've encoded it as a dreadful thing.
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It's actually a wonderful thing.
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I just invite the invitation is there for people to see, is to reframe death, to see
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it quite differently and to see it as a release and a entry into the godly world of heaven,
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let's call it.
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These are the words that are attributed often in religious contexts.
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I'm not talking about religion.
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It's talking about a concept, concept of a wonderful place that we go to when we need
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our bodies.
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I would encourage anyone to lose fear of death.
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There's nothing to worry about.
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Eric, thank you so much for having me on.
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I just love chatting to you.
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Thanks again for listening and sharing this podcast.
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